I want to continue my train of thought from last week's post found here:
https://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2024/douglash106.htm
That post originally ended up getting cut off at about the halfway mark but only for a few days after it was initially sent. Now, it is fully displayed. I do not know what happened. Thank you John for trying to rectify the matter.
Reading that now complete post will be a benefit to understanding what I am trying to say in the following:
In a nut shell, I am thinking that for us as New Creations, Enoch is the one we are to focus on for timing clues, including his son Methuselah, with a focus on the fact that they were both removed prior to the start of the world wide judgment back then. To me this is an obvious type/shadow clue showing that we will also be gone prior to the upcoming judgment years. Additionally, since it was a world wide judgment back then, this detail is also a type/shadow timing clue as to our removal prior to the soon-to-arrive world-wide judgment years.
Enoch, per Genesis 5:21-24, walked with God for 300 years after Methuselah was born. Somehow, God revealed the upcoming flood judgment to Enoch at Methuselah's birth and is not only the reason why he gave his son that unique name, but is also why Enoch started to walk with God at that time. I think this also describes the experience of a number of us. God has revealed to us, through His Spirit, the coming of His Son for us and the subsequent judgment years, and since then, our hearts are not into being down here. Instead, we have a simple desire to walk with the Father and the Son who are the only worthy "One" we know. All else is hollow by comparison. Due to the Holy Spirit's love for the Father and the Son, that passion slowly arises within us, and all simply because of grace.
Those 300 years of Enoch's life are also a measure of "six" sets of a 50-number-of-years "unit".
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Each of the 50's in Enoch's life may have been a true Jubilee. However, when God told Noah that He wouold no longer strive with man after 120 "years", God seemed to have been precisely referencing the 17th day of Noah's 2nd month, not a future day of the Feast of Yom Kippur given to the children of Israel to keep year by year. So to, as I anticipate when we might leave relative to Enoch/Methuselah, a count of 120 "50 year" units might have the same "end of a 120 count" as when Noah's 120 years count ended: the 17th day of the 2nd/8th month. Also, there is a chance Halloween might mark a past anniversary day of the flood of Noah and may be what God might also use for us. This would be a "day we do not expect". I am not going to get in that here in this post. It is something I am keeping in the back of my mind. This year, Halloween is "10 days" prior to the anniversary of when Methuselah was removed.
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Keep in mind that a Shemitah count within a 50 is not only a 7, but for a 6 + 1. After the 6, a year of rest was to be enjoyed. You see this when God told Jacob to leave Laban and then Jacob told Laban a little later that he had worked for him for 20 years, not 21. Seven for Leah, seven for Rachel, and six for the animals. It was in the only six years of working for the animals that God shows us that, within a Shemitah, you work only for the first six years. (In six work days there are "144" hours, or "12" x "12" for those of you who think in terms of the meaning of numbers in the scriptures). God had basically told Jacob that after the last six, his work related obligation was fulfillled, and so Jacob could go back home.
I see this same idea in Enoch's six units of time, after which he was also removed. His time was also done after 300 years. I speculate that this also relates to where we are at "in time", at the end of another six units of time, but each being instead 1000 years. The flood during Noah's time started when he was 600. Thinking in terms of 600 relating to 6000, showing how the "the number of units of time" Enoch walked with God is a clue to show us that we bump right up to the beginning of the soon to start world wide judgment. In other words, Enoch left after six units of time (6x50=300). This is a type/shadow of us going after our six units of time (6x1000=6000). Our leaving at 6000 is a type/shadow off of Noah's 600 years of life at which the world wide judgment began.
Thinking in terms of Jacob's story, I observe that before he gets his companion, Leah, and then his companion, Rachel, that he first experiences a doorway, or portal, to heaven. To me this ties into Revelation 4:1. See Genesis 28 starting at verse 10. In the story line, because of our union with Jesus, we are Jacob. Jesus mentioned to Nathaniel that He was the ladder to Heaven. We are in union with that ladder. When we get our new bodies, we will not only understand but also experience how in the upcoming ages that we will be the ladder for others to experience Jesus through their interaction with us, with angels tending to us per the will of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
In the story line of Jacob, we are seen in Genesis 28:10ff, but not in the companions of Leah nor Rachel. We are not the bride of Christ, but we are the embodiment of Jesus Himself because of our being brought into the intimate union of the Godhead by the indwelling Holy Spirit. This is a more profound and deeper level of intimacy with Jesus than that of a bride. We get to embody Jesus yet also knowing we are Him.
This Reality of our union with the Godhead as New Creations was revealed to Paul over time. It wasn't until he wrote Ephesians, Philippians, and Colossians that he describes the ultimate Reality of our union with Jesus. In our experience of union with Jesus, we will eventually totally lose our current idolatrous focus on "self" and finally enjoy only living in the Reality of Him alone. Watch two year olds at a playground as a kind of parable pointing to this reality. They, in living in abandon to the world around them, are not talking selfies nor looking in a mirror. This will be a picture of us as we live in the reality of our union with Jesus as little children. Because all of our heart focus will be consumed only with Him, our left hand will not know what our right hand is doing. The idolatry of a separate self constantly critiquing ourselves and each other will disappear. We will no longer be using a man-centered, religious yardstick of trying to establish our own righteousness, but instead be overwhelmed with the mind-blowing extreme of God's love for us and how our security before Him is only and will always be because of what Jesus accomplished.
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In the story line of Jacob, Jesus is Jacob and the stairway to heaven, and we also are Jacob (because of our union with Jesus) who will soon experience the fullness of the ladder and also go through the doorway into the third heaven. Leah is the fullness of the Gentiles for whom Jesus will "work" for one Shemitah during the upcoming judgment years. "She" currently has very poor eyesight but will also make a lot of "babies" for Jesus through a great revival, afterwhich she will be raptured to Paradise. Jesus will then work another Shemitah for Rachel, who is the chosen remnant within Israel/Judah. In other words the judgement years will be 15 years total: a 7 plus a 7 plus a 1. You see this in the number of cubits the flood waters exceeded the highest mountain during the prior world-wide judgment. It will be within the first Shemitah of the 1000 year reign that Jesus will have many of his followers "work" to bring Jesus' sheep to Him scattered throughout the world, thus fulfilling what Jacob did prior to being done with Laban. It will be that gathering of the chosen children of Israel whom will never have to leave the land again.
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The three groups I believe God is separating unto Himself and the three groups' endings we are to think in terms of as we try to understand the prophecies in the scriptures, is also seen in II Corinthians 12 and 13. See the following verses:
(12:2-4 with 13:1) "I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago - whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows - such a man was caught up to the third heaven. And I know how such a man - whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, God knows - was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak. . . . (13:1) This is the third time I am coming to you."
Note the three experiences: Third Heaven, Paradise, Earth-based as expressed as third time. I believe each of these describe a destiny of each of the three groups.
For the New Creations, we are meant to occupy the Third Heaven. After the fullness of the Gentiles is brought in (also raptured), they will occupy Paradise. The chosen remnant of Israel/Judah will occupy the earthly kingdom set up by our Lord Jesus. Paul presents type/shadows of all three because he has a place in each.
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I believe that for those of us who get to experience the Third Heaven, we will also be able to "descend into Paradise" or "descend to the Earth, or "descend into the Outer Darkness" per the will/timing of the Father, and the Son, and the Spirit. We will also be able to return to any prior realm. It does not work the same for others who want to ascend up to the next realm from the realm at which they started.
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Paul was the one to whom revelation was eventually given of Union. Galatians 2:20, "I have been crucified together with Christ, and I no longer live but Christ lives in me." Colossians 3:1-4, "Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above,where Christ is, seated at thee right hand of God. Set your mind on the things above, not on thee things that are on earth. For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory." Ephesians 2:4-7, "But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him the the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come he might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus." So, Paul will be included in our destiny of going to the Third Heaven.
And, Paul was an apostle to the Gentiles, not only for the age we are in wherein we become New Creations, but also Paul will fulfill his calling as an apostle to the Gentiles when he comes back to earth during the seven years of the work of Jesus to bring in the fulness of the Gentiles as Leah, and whose destiny is Paradise. This first set of 7 years will be the time of the Revelation Seal Judgments during which Islam will rise to power in the Middle East and a Mahdi will ultimately bring about death by beheading. This is the reason, in part, why Paul had to experience death by beheading. Israel will be descimated for 6 +1 years and have to leave the present borders, fulfilling the type/shadow of Israel being removed out of the land during Jeremiah's time. Today, Israel owes God 7 years for not letting the land rest from the 1973 Yom Kippur war to Shemini Atzeret in 2023. At the end of this 6 + 1, Jesus will come and rapture Leah, destroy Islam, and grant the arrival of the 144,000 with the two witnesses to then focus on getting ahold of the hearts of Jesus' Rachel.
Finally, Paul who loved the Jews, will also be part of the last 7 years wherein Jesus is working to save, rescue and protect His Rachel. This is why Paul, back in II Corinthians 13:1 mentions a "third time" yet it was a meeting on the earth. This will be the time of the Revelation Trumpet and Bowls Judgments. The Satan-indwelt antichrist will rise to power. A new temple will be built but the chosen remnant of Israel/Judah, under the guidance of the two witnesses, will escape into the wilderness to be preserved at the halfway point, having seen the abomination of desolation happen.
I know I am throwing a lot at you but this is how I have come to see the unfolding of events.
Look to God for any confirmation, and let the rest go.
God bless you.
Douglas Henneydougsspare@yahoo.com