Readers - You'll have to read this first : http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2012/clay1017.htm ****** At the end of the post I sigh off with the info that there were 127 inclusive days between the two dreams of children returning from Heaven to earth. It appears that there is still an active day count from December 5, 1997 until the present, and that these day count numbers appear to align with Strong's concordance numbers and certain dreams the Lord gives - at least in my opinion. please note the following: 10.16.12, the date of the second dream found at the link above, is day 5430 inclusive from 12.5.1997. Strong's 5430 greek is found in only one verse: Luke 16:8 "And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light." Notice that the verse mentions the word Children, and two locations, as in my dream. light (heavenly, of God) and earthly. ****** The dream occurred on 10.16.12 1016 = 127 x 8 ****** The dream involved a ladder that was set up on the earth, reaching to heaven, as in Jacob's famous dream of - Genesis 28:12 "And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it." That word "ladder" is Strong's 5551h The running cumulative gematria total of Genesis 28:14 at word three, which is Strong's 5551h Ladder = 290 10.16 is day 290 in a leap year, which 2012 is. ***** The total verse gematria of Genesis 28:12 = 2435 watch Strong's 2435 hebrew first appearance is in - 1 Kings 6:29 "And he carved all the walls of the house round about with carved figures of CHERUBIMS and palm trees and open flowers, within and without (2435h)." Strong's 2435 greek second and last appearance is in - Hebrews 9:5 "And over it the CHERUBIMS of glory shadowing the mercyseat (2435g); of which we cannot now speak particularly ." Both OT and NT 2435 words appear in verses that reference Cherubims, but are two completely different words, neither of which is Cherubims. Both words in context appear in verses that deal with the inner courts of God and the details. How this really is tied to the dream is unknown at this point. ****** my notes: If the Lord Jesus has not fulfilled 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 by the end of the year 2012, then note the following: If the day count from 12.5.97 is still active and valid, then day 5551 would land on 2.14.2013 (February 14, 2013). That is notable because if 2.14 = 214 214 is Jared's (Descend) hebrew gematria. That would align the Jacob's Ladder with 1 Thessalonians 4:16, and the Descent of the Lord. I hesitate to point out any date in the future, as internet readers are want to interpret that as a prediction - which it is not. ***** Jesus is Lord. Acts 3:19-21