Jovial

Let me say THANKS to Luis Vega for his post at http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2015/luisv53.htm that documents the MAS0NIC influence behind our Government. This is something that if you ever take a tour of Wasington DC, you may even find that your tour guide will openly admit to many of these things. It is not a secret people are trying to suppress, but something very much out in the open.

If there is a power that controls our Government from behind the scenes, it is a very PRO-MAS0N and ANTI-CATHOLIC influence, something I will document in this post.

Masons and Catholics are bitter enemies. Join the Masens and you can be ex-communicted by the Vatican. These two groups DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER!!! And the Masons did their best to stamp our Vatican influence ever since they got started influencing our Government, which, as you can see from Vega's post, wast least since our self-rule days.

Since FDR, members of groups with known I11uminati connections have risen to the top in unusually high disproportion. FDR was a 33 degree Mason, a group with well publicized ties to the I11uminati. So well publicized that I doubt I even have to document it for this crowd. He dumped his Vice President in 1940 for a running mate who was also reached that 33rd level. In 1944, he switched again and once again picked a 33 degree running mate, Harry Truman, who later became president. So we had a Mason as President from 1932 to 1952.

Eisenhower and Kennedy were both among the few RECENT presidents with no known ties to any secret societies, and both men warned America about such groups. They governed according to their conscious.

Nixon had no known strong ties to these organizations that I have been able to find. He did talk about attending Bohemian ceremonies, but criticized it at the same time and was shocked by it.

Gerald Ford was a Mason. Jimmy Carter had ties to the Trilateral commission. George Bush I and II were both members of Skull and Bones, which is associated with the Masons and uses their symbolism. Bill Clinton was a member of a Masonic sponsored youth organization, but never became one himself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_participants lists him as a Bildeberger.

Since 1932, that's 11 of 21 elections won by men with OPEN ties to groups understood to be controlled by "THEM" and 9 Masonic. It wouldn't shock me if some of the guys with no PUBLIC ties had some behind the scenes. (Such as links drawn between our current Prez and George Soros.) But only 1.4 million Americans are Masens. Thus, Masens have been 96 times more successful (9/21*315/1.4=96) at winning the White House than their proportion of the population would suggest since 1932. For Catholics, its been 1 of 21 in the same time period, despite being 1 of 4 Americans. So Catholics have been 5.25 LESS LIKELY to win (1/4*21/1=5.25), Masons 96 times MORE LIKELY to win. Would that lead you to suspect that the Vatican control our government behind the scenes, or the Masens do?

How Catholic Influence in Europe declined after the Reformation. Within a few decades of the Reformation, the Catholic Church had little to no influence in their own backyard. See http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2015/jovial412-2.htm http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2015/jovial412-2.htm
How our Country was founded on religious freedom for everyone; as long as they weren't Catholic. It is in the latter part of the above article.
The Vatican's Final Loss of all Political Power in 1870. They used to OWN most of Italy, had a standing army. All of that is gone. See http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2015/jovial45-1.htm for details.
How the Catholic Church has been denied things from the US Government that were reasonable requests and that most Protestants would have supported them on. Most politicians want to be seen as friendly towards everyone and building a world everyone can live in and they want to be viewed as friendly towards Catholics, Protestants, and almot anyone with significant voting strength. But how they vote in Congress is what tells you how much they are REALLY being influenced, and in this case, not much at all.

Whoever controls the power behind the scenes of our Government, if anyone does, has been pro-Mason and Anti-Catholic. That is very clear by WHO has risen to the top. There is a simple reason for the anti-Catholic influences that were part of the founding of the USA. The groups who WANTED to control our government from behind the scenes were afraid of the Vatican, because the Vatican had a history of doing exactly that. So Masons and other groups vieing for power wanted to outlaw Vatican influence before it got started so THEY could control the Government from behind the scenes. They saw the Vatican as competiton, and sought to stamp them out before they got started.