From: Marilyn Agee
Hi:
Greetings from California and thanks for your post. I love it when I learn something new.
> Well, I do not know if May 5, is also ‘Ascension Day’… … there seem to > be some different ways to count ‘Omer’
> 5) Counting ‘Omer’
> … there seem to be some different ways to count ‘Omer’… (Moses prayed in > Psalms 90: Teach us to number our days…)
> Is May 5, the 40th day of Omer?
May 5 is Ascension Day. Omer 1 was Nisan 16, Resurrection Day. It also is the Eastern Orthodox Easter Sunday.
Christ may come down to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem on Holy Saturday shortly after 4 PM. Then Easter will start at 6 PM Jewish time. Ascension Day will not fall on Sunday again until 2024. I think the First-Trump Rapture will be on Sunday.
Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."
Rev 1:9-11 says, " I John, who also am your brother, and companion IN TRIBULATION, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (SUNDAY), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last"
The Last-Trump Rapture will be on the Day of the Lord (Rev 6:17; 7:14). I think this Rapture will be on Monday, Sept. 14, 2015, The Feast of Trumpets.
If I remember right, it was in 1947 that someone tried to update the Julian Calendar, and no Holy Fire came to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem. They went back to using the Julian calendar in use in 30 AD, and the Holy Fire has come on Holy Saturday, the Eve of Easter, every year since.
God was in the burning bush, the fire at night over the Tabernacle, and at Mt. Sinai. I think we have a good chance that Jesus will come up in the Holy Fire that ascends out of the grave about 2 PM May 4, 2013. Easter begins at 6 PM, Jewish time. That timing seems perfect.
The 42nd Day of the Omer is Rainbow Day http://opensiddur.org/2012/05/%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9D-%D7%A7%D7%A9%D7%AA-%D7%9E%D7%B4%D7%91-%D7%91%D7%A2%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%A8-the-42nd-day-of-the-omer-is-rainbow-day/
I wonder if that is Rainbow Day, because we will arrive then at the planet Saturn with its rings.
It said, "2.In Sanhedrin 108b, both Rebi Yoaḥanan and Rav Ḥisda relate teachings that the Generation of the Flood were punished with scalding water. A baraita interpreted Job 12:5 to teach that the waters of the Flood were as hot and viscous as bodily fluids. And Rav Ḥisda taught that since it was with hot passion that they transgressed, it was with hot water that they were punished. For Genesis 8:1 says, “And the water cooled” yashoku)".
Gen 8:1 (KJV) says, "And God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the cattle that was with him in the ark: and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters asswaged" (shakak, abate a flood, make to cease, pacify).
Thanks much for that URL. I haven't heard of "hot" water at the time of Noah's Flood before, but it seems reasonable that if the great bulk of the water came from the Asteroid Belt, i.e., Satan's planet that split apart, and rocks came with the water, the rocks would have heated up at our Roche Limit, and heated the water. However, I am not sure Gen 8:1 says, "and the water cooled."
It said, "The omer count is made starting the evening of each day". Therefore, May 5 starts at 6 PM on May 4.
It said, "You are to count from the end of the rest day (i.e., May 4, Saturday, at 6 PM). From the day you brought the waived Omer-offering, they [the counting] shall be seven complete weeks. Until the end of of the seventh week you shall count fifty days".
It also said, "On the second night of Passover (i.e., Nisan 16, since the Jews call Nisan 15 Passover), the first night of the Omer is counted".
Psalm 67 is read. In the KJV, it says, "God be merciful unto us, and bless us; and cause his face to shine upon us; Selah. 2 That thy way may be known upon earth, thy saving health among all nations. 3 Let the people praise thee, O God; let all the people praise thee. 4 O let the nations be glad and sing for joy: for thou shalt judge the people righteously, and govern the nations upon earth. Selah. 5 Let the people praise thee, O God; let all the people praise thee. 6 Then shall the earth yield her increase; and God, even our own God, shall bless us. 7 God shall bless us; and all the ends of the earth shall fear him."
> Today we stand between the 17th of Iyyar, the day when the rains of the > flood began, and the 27th of Iyyar, the day when Noah left the ark, the > day the first covenant was made between God and all life upon the earth.
Noah died 2 years before Abraham was born. The Civil calendar was in use until the time of Moses, descended from Abraham.
I think the rain in Noah's day started Cheshvan 17.
Agape,
Marilyn Agee
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To the saints, waiting for the soon Return of our Lord Jesus!
Greetings fr/germany
1) ‘Christian’ Feast Days
Sometimes we do look to some ‘Christian’ Feast Days… hoping the Lord will do a Great Work…
For instance: ‘Easter’… Pentcost …’Christmas’ – But: do we ‘realize’ that those days are celebrated often at different ‘Christian dates’???
….Remember: there is still a ‘Eastern (Orthodox)’ and ‘Western Church’ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_Schism | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_controversy
2) Easter in the Western and Eastern (Orthodox) Churches
Since the 16th century, there have been differences in the calculation of Easter between the Western and Eastern Churches. The Roman Catholic Church since 1583 has been using 21 March under the Gregorian calendar to calculate the date of Easter, while the Eastern Orthodox continued and continue to use 21 March under the Julian Calendar. The Catholic and Protestant denominations thus use an ecclesiastical full moon that occurs four to five days earlier than the eastern one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computus
‘Easter’ 2013: Western Churches: March 31 | Eastern (Orthodox) Churches: May 5!
Would you please ponder this: Why should our Lord do a ‘Great Work’ just on March 31, when ‘Easter’ is celebrated …for example in USA, parts of Europe, etc. ??? What about our ‘brothers, sisters’ in Christ in the Orthodox Church? This year on May 5 they do celebrate Easter – the Resurrection of Christ!
3) The Resurrection of Christ is the central event in the liturgical year of the Orthodox Church
This is amazing!!! :
The Resurrection of Christ is the central event in the liturgical year of the Orthodox Church and is understood in literal terms as a real historical event. Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was crucified and died, descended into Hades, rescued all the souls held there through sin; and then, because Hades could not restrain the infinite God, rose from the dead, thus saving the human race. Through these events, Christ released us from the bonds of Hades and then came back to the living as both man and God. According to Orthodox tradition, each human being may partake of this immortality, which would have been impossible without the Resurrection; it is the main promise held out by God in the New Testament.
Every holy day of the Orthodox liturgical year relates to the Resurrection directly or indirectly. Every Sunday is dedicated to celebrating the Resurrection and the triune God. In the liturgical commemorations of the Passion of Christ during Holy Week there are frequent allusions to the ultimate victory at its completion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox_Church#Resurrection_of_Christ
"Christ is Risen!" The response is "Truly, He is risen!" (or "Indeed, He is risen!")
http://orthodoxwiki.org/Paschal_greeting
4) The Year 2013
…I still believe that 2013 is a ‘special’ year…
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2013/friedrichw314-2.htm
Thanks to Marilyn http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2013/marilyna45-1.htm | http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2013/marilyna42.htm | http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2013/marilyna117.htm
Nando http://twelvebooks.wordpress.com/2013/04/02/discussion-of-the-year-of-perfect-order-the-apocalypse-etc-april-2-2013/
And thanks to others writing also about May 5 = Orthodox Easter!
Well, I do not know if May 5, is also ‘Ascension Day’… … there seem to be some different ways to count ‘Omer’
5) Counting ‘Omer’
… there seem to be some different ways to count ‘Omer’… (Moses prayed in Psalms 90: Teach us to number our days…)
Is May 5, the 40th day of Omer?
By the way, here are some links in reference to ‘Omer’
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Spring_Holidays/Sefirat_HaOmer/Ascension/ascension.html
http://www.triumphpro.com/sefirat-ha-omer.htm
http://triumphpro.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/omer-and-pentecost-awesome-secret.pdf
The 42nd Day of the Omer is Rainbow Day http://opensiddur.org/2012/05/%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9D-%D7%A7%D7%A9%D7%AA-%D7%9E%D7%B4%D7%91-%D7%91%D7%A2%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%A8-the-42nd-day-of-the-omer-is-rainbow-day/
Thanks much for that URL. I haven't heard of "hot" water at the time of Noah's Flood before, but it seems reasonable that if the great bulk of the water came from the Asteroid Belt, i.e., Satan's planet that split apart, and rocks came with the water, the rocks would have heated up at our Roche Limit, and heated the water.
It says, "2.In Sanhedrin 108b, both Rebi Yoaḥanan and Rav Ḥisda relate teachings that the Generation of the Flood were punished with scalding water. A baraita interpreted Job 12:5 to teach that the waters of the Flood were as hot and viscous as bodily fluids. And Rav Ḥisda taught that since it was with hot passion that they transgressed, it was with hot water that they were punished. For Genesis 8:1 says, “And the water cooled” (יָּשֹׁכּוּ, yashoku), and Esther 7:10 says, “Then the king’s wrath cooled down” (שָׁכָכָה, shachachah). (Talmud Bavli Sanhedrin 108b; see also Babylonian Talmud Rosh Hashanah 12a; Zevachim 113b.) cf. Bereishit Rabba 28:9"
6) May 5, 2013 …5/5
Orthodox Easter - The Resurrection of Christ is the central event in the liturgical year of the Orthodox Church – this year is on May 5 !
May 5 …5/5 … 5 means Grace …doesn’t …5/5 reminds me also to John 5,5 …
Joh 5:5 And a certain man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years.
According to some websites May 5 is the Omer Day 38… depending on starting the first biblical month …when the new moon was sighted in Jerusalem March 13.
On Wednesday March 13, 2013 the new moon was sighted from Israel. The moon was …first sighted: *from Jerusalem…
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/karaite_korner_news/message/614
7) Is …John 5, 5 …?
Joh 5:5
And a certain man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years.
Joh 5:6
When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole?
Joh 5:7
The impotent man answered him, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but while I am coming, another steppeth down before me.
Joh 5:8
Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk.
Joh 5:9
And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked: and on the same day was the sabbath.
Is …John 5, 5 … a pattern of a “Resurrection” …a pattern of the Healing of His Church… ???
Remember: Jesus prayed in John 17:
Joh 17:21
That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
Joh 17:22
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
Joh 17:23
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
8) May 5, 2013 in Jerusalem !!!
The pattern: As the New Moon ‘has to be sighted …from Jerusalem …Israel… the Holy Land’… this will mark the beginning of the Month…
Easter – The Resurrection of Jesus Christ this year …in Jerusalem! Is celebrated on May 5! Starting on Saturday (Sabbath) May 4… http://theorthodoxchurch.info/blog/news/2013/03/the-holy-light-of-easter-in-jerusalem/
But ! This year is unique !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not only The Orthodox Church...
Also – The Latin!!! Patriarchate of Jerusalem…(Catholics) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ad experimentum … simultaneously… together…
Easter 2013 in the Churches of the Holy Land
On Monday, October 15, 2012, the directive of the Assembly of Catholic Ordinaries of the Holy Land (AOCTS) was published, in regard to the celebration of Easter, according to the Julian calendar. The documents states that in two years, all Latin and Eastern Rite Catholics of the diocese of the Holy Land will adopt the Julian calendar (followed by the Orthodox), after the preparation of the final decree and its approval by the Holy See. The directive leaves to the Bishops of the various Catholic Churches the freedom to choose whether to start the experience in 2013 or begin in 2015.
….The Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem, in the person of the Patriarch His Beatitude Fouad Twal, has invited all priests of the Diocese of the Holy Land (i.e., Palestine, Jordan, Israel and Cyprus) to adopt the Orthodox calendar. Therefore, Easter will be celebrated May 5, 2013,
…As we read in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, “Because of different methods of calculating the 14th day of the month of Nisan, the date of Easter in the Western and Eastern Churches is not always the same. For this reason, the Churches are currently seeking an agreement in order once again to celebrate the day of the Lord’s Resurrection on a common date(Cf. CCC 1170). http://www.custodia.org/default.asp?id=779&id_n=21978
http://en.lpj.org/2012/10/23/latin-patriarchate-will-celebrate-easter-2013-according-to-the-julian-calendar/
2013 Catholics and Orthodox Will in Holy Land Will Celebrate Easter Simultaneously -- Soon in the Whole World?
(Jerusalem) In 2013 Catholics of the Holy Land will celebrate Easter together with the Orthodox on May 5th and not on March 31st. as in the rest of the whole world. In Jerusalem and the other Holy places Easter will be celebrated according to the Julian calendar as the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem reveals.
The Holy See has allowed the various rites the freedom to celebrate with the Gregorian or the Julian calendar. The Catholics Bishops of the Holy Land have thus concluded, in order to strengthen the Christian unity in places, where the son of God was born on earth, lived and died on the cross, to follow the Julian Calendar which the Orthodox Christians also use.
….The Ruling is Valid for 2013 ad experimentum
The decree will be issued ad experimentum only for the year of 2013. In 2014 in any case, the dates for Easter fall on the 20th of April and without any help, together on the same day. Til the year 2015 the Latin Patriarchate and the Holy See will meet for a final ruling. The Catholic Bishops of the Holy Land are prepared to give their agreement to a lasting adoption of the Julian Calendar and have expressed the wish that Rome may grant canonical approval.
http://eponymousflower.blogspot.de/2012/10/2013-catholics-and-orthodox-will-in.html
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1Th 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18
Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
Maranatha, Come Lord Jesus!
P.S. RE 5/5
… 5 = Grace: Joh 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
… 2013 …the year of that grace … :
1Pe 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;