Donna Danna (24 July 2026)
"TO NANSINGS: God Foreknew Us, The Sons of God & Adam Were Created, The Giants Were Procreated"


This is in reply to your 7/10 post Reply to: Why no angel can call himself a begotten son of God in which you stated the following at the bottom of your post:

"P.S. Since you have already made your position known, I'll spare you the time and trouble of preparing a response; you don't need to respond. I just felt the readers to this question needed to hear the other side of the story."

MY RESPONSE: I don't consider it a waste of time nor trouble in preparing a response in order to bring clarity to Bible verses misunderstood by other people. 

You also stated the following:


Jeremiah 1:5 says, "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations." God knows the end from the beginning (Isaiah 46:10) and has knowledge of who will be born even before they are born, and He had a plan for Jeremiah's life before he was conceived. No where in the Bible does it say that we believers called the sons of God, who would be saved in the future, ever existed with God before being born on Earth.  If that fact was true, where were the unsaved people at the beginning of creation who would be born in the future if the saved people were already with God before creation? And just because you say numerous people claimed that before they came to Earth that God let them pick who would be their parents doesn't mean that God actually talked to them. It is hearsay evidence. For all we know it could have been a demon spirit or fallen angel disguised as God talking to them. I am also sure that there a number of people who would have picked different parents if they had known what their parents would actually be like and if they could have chosen who their parents would be.

You also stated the following:

"The Jewish Talmud says the "sons of God" were the remaining righteous sons of Adam after he died who went down into the valley where murderous Cain and his descendants lived, who saw his daughters were beautiful and ended up intermarrying with them, against Adam's wishes.  I suspect that is why the children born from that mix were "reknown," since they were descended from the last of Adam's initial family." 

Please show us the actual verses in the Jewish Talmud that states the above facts word for word. Also consider the fact that the sons of God can't be what you claim the Talmud said about Genesis 6:1-4 and at the same time be saved people who would be born in the future who existed with God before creation in Job 38:7 which you also said. 

Adam was also called the son of God in Luke 3:38, but he wasn't one of the sons of God in Job 38:7 who were with God before the creation of the Earth. However, Adam was called the son of God because God created him just like the angels who were also called the sons of God because God created them.  Humans likewise call those whom we procreate our sons and daughters. Also the sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 who went into women who bare children (giants) to them were angels which is confirmed by the book of Enoch in chapters 6, 7, 9, 10, 12 & 15. The Book of Enoch Online and in the book of Jubilees chapter 5 Book of Jubilees: The Book of Jubilees: The Fall of the A... | Internet Sacred Text Archive 

The sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 and Job 1:6, 2:1 & 38:7 who were in the presence of God were called Ben Elohim in Hebrew (the sons of God).  The meaning didn't change from them being angels in Genesis 6:1-6 to them being we saved believers in the future with God before creation in Job 38:7, and none of the male saved believers of the future went into the daughters of men and procreated the giants back in Genesis 6:1-4. The meaning of the sons of God remained the same throughout the Old Testament.

You also stated the following:
"A Jewish scholar pointed out that in Genesis 6:4 it says the giants were already here before the sons of God came:  "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came..."  This means the sons of God did not create the giants."

I already explained verse Genesis 6:4 in my 7/01 post WHEN WERE THE GIANTS BORN BEFORE & AFTER THE FLOOD? that the sons of God in those days came down on Mt. Hermon in the days of Jared, who was Enoch's father, and procreated the giants with the daughters of men, and the giants also after that were those on Earth after the great flood. Jared was the great, great grandfather of Noah, and Enoch was Noah's great grandfather. So the giants weren't on the Earth before the sons of God came to Earth. The sons of God came down on Mt. Hermon before the giants were procreated by them and the daughters of men.

You also stated:
"The Bible says that the angels are "ministering spirits" who minister to the *heirs of salvation (*sons of God) but are not heirs (themselves). So the angels can't be both. 
Hebrews 1:14, "Are they (angels) not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?"  The heirs of salvation are humans who need salvation due to being a descendant of Adam's sin seed.  This leaves out the angels entirely.  They are only ministering spirits and God's messengers."

The angels were created as ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation. However, the 200 fallen angels chained up in the abyss and the rest of the 1/3 of the angels that are fallen angels including Satan are not ministering to the heirs of salvation. We saved believers are wrestling against them according to Ephesians 6:12, "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."