Donna Danna (6 July 2025)
"TO GINO:  144,000 On Mt. Sion Are In Heaven"


This is in reply to your 6/22 post 144,000 upon mount Sion 
I think that the 144,000 who are sealed in the forehead in Rev. 7:1-12 are the same 144,000 standing on Mt. Sion with Jesus in Rev. 14:1-5 in heaven since there is a Jerusalem on Earth and a new Jerusalem in heaven, a temple in heaven and on Earth, and an ark of the covenant in both places, etc.

There is also another reason why I think the 144,000 are seen in heaven with Jesus and are taken to heaven sometime during the great tribulation, and that is because Jesus is not seen on Earth during the Great Tribulation until He returns to Earth after the great tribulation is over. Matthew 24:15-20 shows us that when the abomination of desolation is standing in the holy place (inside the Temple), then those residing in Judaea are to flee into the mountains. Then Matthew 24:21-30 says, "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.  For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.    
For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."
 
So Jesus is not going to be on Earth at all during the Great Tribulation so He will not be standing on Mt. Sion on Earth with the 144,000 during that time either.
 Also if you reread Rev. 14:1-5 about the 144,000 with Jesus, the Lamb, in heaven, it is describing the Lord's throne in heaven with the 4 beasts before the throne and the elders. Rev. 14:5 also says, "And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God" which means they are before the throne of God in heaven.