From: Marilyn AgeeRe: Doran (3 Nov 2011)
"To Marilyn Agee, I agree Kislev 24!"
Hi Marilyn! Blessings to you! The Lord has also brought this date to me! Kislev 24, from Haggai! "From that day forward I will bless you," this is the promise from our King!!!!!I don't know if you saw this post I did, www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2011/doran1014.htmOne other comment I want to make, did you ever notice how the real important verses in so many of the books in the prophets are verses 20-24! I think it is significant and also points to this time period. Maybe this will be a several day event!!! Praise you our Father! Your bride awaits! Fill up your lamps people!Hi Doran:No, I hadn't recognized that verses 20-24 were significant. Thanks for the tip.I think I read what you posted before, but everything didn't jell. I should have paid more attention when you said, "Dayanna Torchia has posted the rapture date as the 21st of a future month as shown to her by the Lord." I didn't even remember her post when things did come together.What came to mind was David Doughtrey, Valerie Skrzyniak and John Tng seeing 21s. I went hunting for more information on that tonight. The one I knew the least about was what John Tng saw.Bob Schlenker (http://theopenscroll.20m.com/why21.htm)said, "the number 21 expressed on the Five Doves site. John Tng's assessment is on this page. He believes that 21 is the number that represents the Bride! There was a vision Eddie Tan from Malaysia had that he shared on the Five Doves site. He was shown 'YESHUA 21".I'm so glad to get this much information. The link doesn't work, but John Tng thinks 21 represents the Bride. Fantastic! That ties in beautifully. Eddie Tan seeing "YESHUA 21" ties in too. Was it Vincent Tan or Eddie? I know Vincent Tan had some experiences with an angel. I think the angel left $2.34 cents for gas in his truck seat, and that was all the gas his car would take.Bob also mentioned the "heavenly sign from 1994 when the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 broke up and the 21/22 fragments were observed crashing into the planet Jupiter."However, I think it was 21 pieces."There were 21 discernible pieces of comet.""The first of 21 comet fragments is expected to hit Jupiter on July 16, 1994" (www.cv.nrao.edu/~pmurphy/patsl9.html)I knew the String of Pearls was a sign, but now that we have more information on the Rapture, I need to be sure. You see, winter is considered to start on Dec 21, but this year, the winter solstice is actually on Dec 22. Therefore, it looks like we could end up watching on both days. However, it could be Dec 21 for me and Dec 22 for those in Australia. That's close enough. Either day will be just fine.Below is what I found out about the sky-blue 21 Valerie saw.
"Valerie Skrzyniak (14 Aug 2010)
"RE: Joan (12 Aug 2010) "The Number 21"Confirmation of The Rapture!!!" (written in sky blue type)
"On 12 Aug 2010, Valerie said, "BACK IN 1999, WHILE IN PRAYER, I SUDDENLY HAD A VISION BEFORE MY VERY EYES OF A "SKY BLUE NUMBER 21...I AND OTHERS HAVE ALWAYS FELT THAT THIS SKY BLUE NUMBER HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE RAPTURE AS WELL! I ONLY SAW THE NUMBER "ONCE" AS IT FLASHED BEFORE MY EYES!...I BELIEVE IT IS ANOTHER SIGN, THAT THE RAPTURE IS AT HAND...I'M 100% CONVINCED THIS MESSAGE IS FOR ME AS A CONFIRMATION OF THE RAPTURE! ANOTHER REASON I BELIEVE THIS TO BE THE CASE IS BECAUSE YOU HAD THIS VISION IN APRIL!!! MY BIRTHDAY"...Below is what Dayana T posted, and she was watching for "October 21 22 2011"."Dayana T (14 Oct 2011)
"UPDATE!!! ``HUMBLY WATCHING FOR HIGH RAPTURE OR RECEIVING THE HOLY SPIRIT & A GLORIFIED BODY`` WATCH DATES ON OCTOBER 21 22 2011!?`` VIDEO LINK POSTED ON MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL CALLED: VISION OF THE SONS OF GOD & THE TRIBULATION MUST SEE!!!"I have to give Dayanna credit, She said, "I STILL HUMBLY BELIEVE THAT NUMBER 21 IS A CLUE FOR RAPTURE, HAS TO DO WITH A DATE FOR THE RAPTURE, THAT IS JUST MY POOR OPINION! ALSO NOW BELIEVE IT HAS TO DO WITH ``ACTS 2:21`` WHERE WE WILL RECEIVED THE OUTPOURING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT A SECOND TIME, NEAR THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES, BUT A FEW DAYS LATER, ON OCTOBER 21 22 2O11..."``AND THE FACT THAT i STILL SEE NUMBER 21 WHICH ALL BEGAN IN MAY 2009 UNTIL NOW IN EARLY OCTOBER 2011 ``STILL 2 YEARS LATER`` STILL SEEING NUMBER 21 ALMOST DAILY WHEN i LOOK UP AT THE TIME, OR IT APPEARS ALL OVER THE PLACE``
``I ALSO SEE NUMBER 22 VERY OFTEN``
"THE FACT THAT i SAW WRITTEN THE NUMBER 221 SOMEONE POINTED OUT FOR ME TO LOOK AT NUMBER 21 AND THEN NUMBER 22
COULD IT BE A DATE, A SIGN, A CLUE, FROM GOD FOR THE RAPTURE?"``MY FIRST RAPTURE EXPERIENCE`` i truly experience the RAPTURE!!!
"Thursday June 18 2009 i was RAPTURED!!!
at exactly 10:20am when i looked at the time!
In a series of three short visions which began June 16 2009 to June 18 2009
"i experienced the RAPTURE AT THAT VERY SAME INSTANT AS IF IT HAD OCCURED AT THAT MOMENT!!! AND ``TIME`` WAS UP!!!"Doran, you and my friend in Pensacola both mentioned, "Kislev 24, December 20, 2011". I already knew that Kislev 24 was Jesus' conception, so at that time, I didn't tie in anything else.Somehow though, I remembered that Haggai 2 mentioned "and upward" and went to find it. It wasn't until I reread Haggai 2:15 with 2:18,19 that I caught on that the NEXT DAY, Kislev 25, could be our important day. Kislev 25 is Hanukkah.Haggai 2:15 says, "And now, I pray you, consider (sum lebab, take to heart) from this day (Kislev 24) AND UPWARD (Kislev 25), from before a stone was laid upon a stone in the temple of the LORD". We are the Temple of the Holy Spirit, built on Jesus, the only foundation.Hag 2:18,19 says, "Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month (i.e., Kislev 24), even from the day that the foundation (Jesus) of the LORD'S temple was laid, consider it (take it to heart). 19 Is the seed (Jesus, Gen 3:15) yet in the barn? (a saying meaning in the womb, or is she pregnant) yea (YES, Jesus was conceived on Kislev 24), as yet the vine (Christ), and the fig tree (Israel), and the pomegranate (meaning the upright), and the olive tree (Israel with the Gentiles grafted in), hath not brought forth (Heb., NASA, LIFTED UP): FROM this day (i.e., on Kislev 25) will I bless you."We will be blessed on Kislev 25 IN THE WINTER.I turned quickly to John 10:22. It said, "And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication (Hanukkah), and IT WAS WINTER."I whispered, "IT WAS WINTER!" The light finally dawned. Hanukkah is Dec 21 this year, and WINTER is Dec 21. Oh wow! I got a rush with that one. Hanukkah does not always start on Dec 21, but it does this year.John 10:23 said, "And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch." We are the Temple of the Holy Spirit, so he walked among us. That was a well-hidden clue.If you know other details, please let me know.> > I have not studied enough to know if the rapture comes after the 144000 are gathered up, but maybe the 144000 are gathered on December 20 and the rapture is on the 21st.I think there are two Raptures, the First-Trump Rapture of Rev 4:1 for the wise virgins and the Last-Trump Rapture in Rev 7:9-14 for the Tribulation saints, which includes the 144,000 Israelites.
Doran (14 Oct 2011)
"Kislev 24, December 20, 2011"
Hi John and Doves! I really enjoy the work that is going on here trying to figure everything out. I believe I may be able to help a little bit, not because of anything I know, but what the Lord has brought to me, one of His servants. I have known about this for a couple months I guess, but posts on 5 Doves today brought it home so to speak. Here we go!
Three days in a row, the Lord opened my Bible to Haggai. So, I read it, and I asked the Lord on day 3, just what it was He wanted me to see. I am a member of another forum and I had posted in the past that I thought the passage in Haggai where Haggai prophecies 3 times on Kislev 24 (the 24th day of the ninth month) might be a clue to something. Anyway, the Holy Spirit said "the date, the date, the date!" So I figured December 20 must be significant. The next day, once again my Bible opened to Haggai, so once again I asked what else the Lord wanted me to see, so I looked closely and there it was!
In Haggai 2:19, Is the seed still in the barn? As yet the vine, the fig tree, the pomegranate, and the olive tree have not yielded fruit. But from this day I will bless you.
There it was! Kislev 24 is the day after Hannukah, which is the celebration of light overcoming darkness. Posts on 5 Doves today mentioned that the olive harvest continues up to the time of Hannukah. It is interesting too that the Pope is also known as the glory of the olive. Dayanna Torchia has posted the rapture date as the 21st of a future month as shown to her by the Lord, so this in my mind is a real possibility.
Verse 23 states that He will take Zerubbabel and make him like a signet ring. This is a reference to the 144000, so I would say this may definitely be the time they are gathered. Zerubbabel and Joshua are the prototypes for the 144000. Did you know they were descendants of King David.
It is also very interesting that the gestation and birth scenario ends on Hannukah, so I am expecting the birthing of the sons of God right after Hannukah. I have not studied enough to know if the rapture comes after the 144000 are gathered up, but maybe the 144000 are gathered on December 20 and the rapture is on the 21st.
Altogether, I find this very intriguing and I wanted to share it with all of you. I pray the seed is leaving the barn!!!!