Paul Wilson (19 Jan 2012)
"RE: Jovial Re what proof is there"

In JR Church’s book “Daniel reveals the bloodline of the antichrist” on page 309 at the bottom is written “the last jubilee recorded in history was AD 132/33. The evidence for this jubilee was found in some rental receipts belonging to Simon Bar Kochbah, discovered in a cave near the dead sea and reported in 1961. This was pointed out in an article entitled “Chronomessianism” by Rabbi Ben Zion Wacholder in the 1975 Hebrew Union College Annual Handbook. >From this date (132/33) one can calculate all previous Jubilees.” he shows that that was the 32nd jubilee. using that date he has calculated all future (as of that date 132/33) Jubilees.
 
Paul
 
 
Jovial (17 Jan 2012)
"Re: what proof is there?"

Torah says you need 2 witnesses to establish a matter, and I only know of 1 that fixes a year for Jubilee.  So it is not exactly at Torah standards.  Rambam (Maimonedies) said the destruction of the second temple happened in the 15th year of the 9th Jubilee (yovel) period. This would have meant that 55-56 AD was a Jubilee year and therefore the next one at Tishri 2015 to Tishri 2016.

 

What source did HE use?  I don't know.  Could he have been wrong?  I don't know.  But he probably had better sources than me.  If someone thinks they know of a better source from an older time period, I'm all ears.

 

However the good news is that establishing the 7 year Shmittah cycle is not very controversial at all.  We do know that one quite well.


From: "Paul Wilson"

what proof do you have that 2015 is a jubilee?? have previous jubilees been declared?? or is all you have ‘something happened in a certain year so it must have been a jubilee’?? that is really conjecture. surely if this year is a jubilee there is proof beyond conjecture?? the jubilee would have to be counted from when first instituted. JR Church's book shows a good timeline and he shows the 2015 year as sabbatical not jubilee. see http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2012/paulw110-1.htm. even if you were to start the jubilee count from a modern date how do you choose which date is the start point?? not all significant dates for Israel occur 50 years apart.
 
Paul