KML (12 Jan 2012)
"RE: T.O. " Enoch" and the answers to your questions"

 
Hello T.O and Tng and all Doves

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2012/to111-1.htm

Let me begin with reference from Enoch.
Chapter 30. Verse 11.
And I' ( God) gave him (Adam)Seven natures: to the (Flesh) hearing, the eyes for sight, to the (soul) smell. the veins for touch, the blood for taste, the bones for endurance, to the inteligence sweetness[ enjoyment]
note: does not God have Seven spirits ?
12. I' ( God) conceived a cunning saying to say, I created man [from invisible and from visible nature], of both are his death and life and image, he knows speech like some created thing, small in greatness and again great in smallness. and I' placed him [on] earth, a Second angel, honourable, great and glorious, and I' appointed him as ruler to rule [on] earth and to have [my] wisdom, and there was None like him [of] earth of all my existing creatures.
note: here that he is ON the earth. Notice also man is appointed to be ON the earth,[not Below the earth] and when God said to be fruitful and multiply, that command never changes. Man will dwell upon the earth forever. It will be restored to him at the Eternal Perfect State.  Enoch saw a MAN in heaven, a man he asked "who is this ? He knew every man on earth, but this man he had not ever seen. I believe we were formed in the IMAGE of The Son of Man, Jesus Christ, who's coming is foretold to us.
this is only my thoughts, but I believe it was Jesus who walked and talked with Adam, and Eve in the garden.
13. And I' appointed him a Name from the FOUR component parts, from east, from west, from south, from north, and I' appointed for him FOUR special Stars, and I' called his name Adam, and showed him the TWO ways, The light and The darkness, and told him:
14. This is good, and That bad, that I' SHOULD LEARN WHETHER HE HAS LOVE TOWARDS ME, OR HATRED, that it be clear WHICH IN HIS RACE love me.
note: I believe Race' in this statement means all peoples throughout the world, not color or nationality.
15. For I' have seen his nature, therefore through NOT SEEING he wil sin worse, and I' said after sin " what is there after death?
16. And I' put sleep into him and he fell asleep. And I' took from him a rib, and created him a wife, that death should come to him by his wife, and I' took his last word and called her name Eve.
note: I will refer to this verse later on, let us continue.

God gives paradise to Adam, and gives him a command to SEE the heavens opened, and that he should SEE the angels singing the song of Victory.
Chapter 31
Verse 1.   Adam has life ON earth, and I' created a garden in Eden in the east, that he should observe the Testament and Keep the command.
note: What command ? to SEE the angels singing in Victory. What victory ? The victory of Jesus the word/ breath of God over the sin of [ his] Adams offspring in generations to come. And in our Now present generation when we will SEE Jesus come, not only at the Rapture, but with him when He comes Victorious as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. I believe Adam was shown the future of his offspring, and the redemption for them through " God's sacrifice of himself for him(Adam). In The first book of Adam, it states that Adam told Seth, before his death, that there would be destruction of the earth by water, and that his bones were to go aboard this ark, and the gifts Adam gave Seth, from the cave of treasures, from God, were to also be taken aboard, and given to the coming Saviour at the appointed time. Can you think what these gifts were ?
2. I' made the heavens open to him, that he should SEE the angels singing the song of victory, and the gloomness light.
3. And he [was] continuosly in Paradise, and the devi [understood] that I' wanted to create ANOTHER WORLD, because Adam [was Lord] on earth, to rule and control it.
4. The Devil is THE Evil Spirit of THE LOWER PLACES, as a [fugitive] he made Sotona(9) from the heavens as his name was Satanail (10) Thus he [became] different from the angels, but his nature did NOT change his inteligence as far as his understanding of righteous and sinful things.
note : (9) Sotona. Or, " Diana" (10) Satanail. Or, the impious one " Ha-Satan" in Hebrew means " The Adversary " refurring here to the "lead" adversary, or Lucifer.
5.And he understood his CONDEMNATION and the sin which he had Sinned [before], therefore he CONCEIVED thought against Adam, in such from he [enterred] and [seduced] Eve, but did NOT touch Adam.
note: Here is my reference to the above verse 16. of chapter 30. Why did God use Eve rather than Adam? Because God created Another World in verse 3. Chapter 30, and Adam ruled over it, as God's Appointed, if you will. Therefore Lucifer could not touch Adam.
This same principal was acted out by David with Saul. David repented even for cutting a small portion of Saul's garment while he slept in the cave.
6. But I' cursed ignorance, but what I' had blessed previously, "these" I' did NOT curse,I' cursed NOT man, nor the earth, nor other creatures, but man's EVIL FRUIT, and his WORKS.

God shows Enoch the [age] of this world,it's existance of SEVEN THOUSAND YEARS, and the EIGHTH THOUSAND is the End, neither years,nor months, nor weeks, nor days, nor hours.
Chapter 33.
Verse 1. And I' created the EIGHTH day also, that the Eighth day should be The First-Created AFTER my work, and that the First Seven REVOLVE in the form of the Seventh Thousand, and that at The Beginning of The Eighth Thousand there should be a time of Not-Counting, endless, with neither years nor months nor weeks nor days nor hours.
2. And NOW, Enoch, all that I' have told you, all that you have understood, all that you have seen of heavenly things, all that you have seen ON EARTH, and all that I' have written in Books by MY Wisdom, all these things I' have devised and created from the UPPERMOST FOUNDATION to the LOWER and to the End, and there is [no] Counsellor nor Inherotor to MY creations.
3. I' am Self-Eternal, not made with hands, and without change.
4. MY thought is MY Counseller, MY wisdom and Word are made, and MY eyes Observe ALL THINGS [how] they stand and tremble with terror.
note: The "Trinity" in most church fathers identifies "persons" not a Three Separated beings, but of the internal relationship to thought, to Breath to Word.
John 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
1:2 The Same was in the beginning with God.
Col 3:16 Let the Word of Christ dwell in you richly in all Wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in Psalms and hyms and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
John 6:63  It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth Nothing: The WORDS that I speak unto you, they are Spirit, and they are Life.
5. If I' turn away MY face, Then ALL things will be destroyed.
6. And apply your mind, Enoch, and know him who id speaking to you, and take thence the books which you yourself have written.
7. And I' give you Samuil (11) and Raguil (12) who led you UP, and the books, and go DOWN to earth, and tell your sons ALL that I' have told you, and ALL that you have seen, from the LOWER heaven UP to MY throne, and ALL the troops.
note: (11) Samuil. Or, "Sariel"   (12) Raguil. Or, "Raguel"
8. For I' created ALL FORCES, and there is none that resists Me or that does not Subject himself to me. For ALL subject themselves to MY MONARCHY, and labour MY sole rule.
9. Give them the books of the handwritting and they will [read them] and will KNOW ME for the Creator of all things, and will understand how there is No Other God but ME.
10. And let them distribute the books of your handwritting; children to children, Generation to Generation, nations to nations.
11. And I' will give you, Enoch, MY intercessor, the archistratege Michael, for the handwrittings of your fathers Adam, Seth, Enos,Cainan, Mahalaleel, and Jared your father.
note: Please read Luke 3: 6-38   Isn't our God and Saviour Jesus Christ Awsome ! Praise his Holy Name !
Evil men set out to denigh us these books written by Enoch, given by God for generation to generation, nations to nations.
So that we would know as did Enoch.

T.O. In answer to your questions:
1. what do you believe is there in the interior ?
I believe there is nothing righteous or good left there sense Jesus resurrection. Only Evil ! These individuals(souls) will be brought out and their bodies in the grave will be brought back with them together, at the Great white Throne Judgement where God the Father will sit on the Throne and judge, and Jesus the Son will carry out the judgement.
Hell is a place like unto a holding cell for the wicked. A place of torment, and suffering, and each and every one will REMEMBER what he past up in Jesus Christ our saviour. Think of Pilate for ever washing his hands, Think also of the Ruler of Rome to whom Paul was taken for trial, when after hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ said; I was ALMOST persuaded. "Almost" only counts in horse shoes, not in eternity. This they will remember for all eternity, even in the Lake of Fire. It sounds horrible that God would cause this, but never forget, these individuals rejected God, and hated all righteousness. Let us not feel sorry for them. Only NOW while we can, try to snatch them from the fire. Let us NOW love our enemy, and pray for them, and share Christ as often as we can.
2. Still TWO gulfs ?
NO..... there was only ONE gulf that divided Paradise/Bosom of Abraham, and hades/Hell. It was a Great Gulf.
3. Still earth like ?
NO.....It was never earthlike. ( upon the earth) Remember this [IS] a natural place(visible) but the souls of the individuals and demon spirits, and the devil,[a spiritual being], (invisible) dwell there in.
I believe The Lake of Fire will be a [visible] place [upon] the earth, because it will be a visible memorial to every people who come to worship the Lord in the New Jesusalem who are in their natural bodies, and they will remember the fate of those who knew NOT God. I think it will be in the far off distance, perhaps near or around the old Babylon, and the smoke of the fire will ascend up from it that everyone will see.

Blessing to you all
KML