"Re; Kevin H "
Antichrist Question ?"
Hello Kevin and Doves
Yes it is true that Paul was a Roman, and his blood
line was Jewish. Which does corrispond with my
Lets look at Revelation 17:9-11
What was the Seventh, and what will be the Eighth
Beyond the identification of the nations of Ezekiel 38, the
Book of Revelation also confirms the notion that, indeed,
the region of Turkey will head the Future Antichrist's
Rev 17:3 There 'I saw....a scarlet beast that was covered
with blasphemous names and had Seven Heads and Ten Horns.
Here we see the final "beast" empire of the Antichrist. The
beast has Seven Heads and Ten Horns. We already know from
the Book of Daniel that the Ten Horns represent the Ten
nations or Kings that will comprise the Antichrist's empire.
But the Seven Heads stand for Seven Empires that Have
Existed throughout history. ALL have foreshadowed the final
empire to come. As usual, whenever the Bible gives a
prophecy that may be difficult in it's symbolism, the Bible
clarifies the symbolism and explains the passage for us.
And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The Seven Heads are
Seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
And there are Seven Kings: Five are fallen, and One IS, and
the other is Not yet come; and when he cometh, he must
continue a short space.
And the beast that Was, and IS not, even he IS the Eighth,
and IS of the Seven, and goeth into perdition.
The Seven Heads are called Seven Mountains. The Bible uses
mountains as a symbol representing a Kingdom of [an] empire.
But most importantly this passage gives us insight into the
fact that, before Jesus returns, there will actually Have
Been a total of EIGHT "beast" empires. The Eighth empire
will be ruled by the Antichrist.
How can this passage help us gain insight into the
identification of the Final empire of the Antichrist?
First we see that at the time John wrote this passage, FIVE
of the empires had already fallen. This is seen in the
phrase " five have been."
THESE EMPIRES ARE GENERALLY ACCEPTED BY BIBLE TEACHERS AS
1. The Egyptian Empire
2. The Assyrian Empire
3. The Babylonian Empire
4. The Persian Empire
5. The Greek Empire
After these five, the angel tells John that ONE empire "IS."
At the time John wrote the Book of Revelation, Rome "WAS."
It ruled the Middle East, North Africa, and much of Europe.
Thus the SIXTH empire was the Roman Empire. The next Empire,
of course, is the SEVENTH, and then the EIGHTH will be the
empire of the Antichrist.
So the Seventh empire is the One we need to identify,
because according to the Verse above, the Eighth empire will
be " A resurrected or Revived " version of the SEVENTH
So if we are waiting for the final Eighth empire, then What
was the SEVENTH ?
What Empire followed Rome ?
The most common belief, however, held most universally by
Bible teachers, is that the Antichrist's empire will be a
"revived" Roman Empire.
There are, however, some glaring problems with this theory:
1. First, Rome was the SIXTH empire. If Rome was the Sixth,
and will also be the Last, THEN WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SEVENTH
This theory has a gaping hole.
Is Rome the Sixth, Seventh, and the Eighth empires?
Neither Scripture nor history nor common sense supports this
2.Second, every one of the previous SIX empires ruled the
Middle Esat, including Jerusalem. This is very important
! We must always remember that the Bible is
thoroughly Jerusalem-centric. It is Not American-centric,
nor Western-centric. In the Biblical view of
things, [Jerusalem is The Center of the Earth.]
This point cannot be underscored enough.
Any theory that revolves around a revived Roman Empire based
in Europe- for instance on the European Common Market- is a
concept foreign to the Bible. Unless the empire Rules over
or directly affects Jerusalem, it is actually a bit
irrelevent to the Biblical mindset.
3.Third, if we look at the first SIX empires, each
succeeding empire either destroyed or absorbed the empire
that preceeded it. There is a very natural succession. If we
look at each empire, we see that they all fulfill these
characteristics: They ruled over Jerusalem and they defeated
and absorbed their predecessor.
The Egyptian Empire ruled all of Egypt and Israel as well.
But the Assyrian Empire defeated the Egyptian Empire and
likewise ruled over a vast portion of the Middle East,
including Israel. After this, the Babylonian Empire defeated
the Assyrian Empire and became ever Larger than it's
predecessor, again, ruling over Israel.
Such is the pattern with each successive empire: The
Medo-Persian Empire succeeded the Babylonian Empire only to
be succeeded by the Greek Empire. The Greek Empire was in
turn succeeded by the Roman Empire. Which leads us to the
In AD 395, The Roman Empire was divided into TWO portions;
The Eastern and the Western portions. The Eastern portion
became known as the Byzantine Empire. In AD 410 the
Western Capital City of Rome fell to invading Germanic
tribes known as the Visigoths or Barbarians. The
Western/European half of the Empire including it's Capital
had fallen, but the Roman Empire nevertheless continued.
How so ?
It simply shifted it's Capital and it's throne from Rome to
Constantinople a thousand miles East. The Western European
portion of the Roman Empire fell but the Eastern Bysantine
portion of the Roman Empire lived on for nearly another
thousand years with Constantinople as it's Captial. The
Roman Empire finally fell in AD 1453 to the TURKS. The
Turkish Ottoman Empire succeeded the Roman Empire and ruled
over the entire Middle East, including Jerusalem, for nearly
Five Hundred years. The Turkish Empire existed right up
Thus we see that the only Empire that fulfills the patterns
necessary to be considered the SEVENTH empire is the
Turkish/Ottoman Empire. This of course corrisponds
perfectly with Ezekiel's List of nations with such a heavy
emphasis on Turkey.
Bible prophecy and history maps
The World known to the Hebrews according to the Mosaic
see map #4
Blessings to you