SEPTEMBER 23 RAPTURE OR 24?
START OF THE
TRIBULATION PERIOD?
What happened to the
Feast of Trumpets 2032?
One is only offering my point of view and seeking to contribute
to the discussion about the Rapture prophecy to occur on
September 23 or 24, based on Pastor Joshua’s experience from
South Africa. One had asked the question about if Jesus is to
return on Yom Kippur in 2032, what happened to the Feast of
Trumpets? This was and is still the question one had asked in a
former critique of Pastor Joshua’s Prophecy that I had shared.
It does appear now, that the 1260 Days (1st Half) + the
1290 Days (2nd half to include +30 Days) for a total of
2550 Days is what is being espoused by most if not all End Time
YouTube Channels.
There is even Brother Paul from the UK at
RevelationChapter12dotcom who is onboard with this day count or
model, as is Dr. Awe. No problem. However, one can span the day
counts to land on similar Jewish Feasts solely based on the
Rabbinical Calendar. Since it is exclusively Lunar based, there
will be interesting correspondences in day counts from Passover
to Rosh HaShanah at times. For example, if one takes the
Passover of April 15, 2022 + 2520 days (1260 + 1260) + 30 days
that is being used in the Pastor Joshua Prophecy, that will
result in the end of Passover on April 8, 2029.
It just depends where one starts the day count. So, for Pastor
Joshua’s day count, it has to be, actually the 24th of September
2025 for the Rapture to occur. Why? This is because one is
assuming Jerusalem, Local Time. In that case, due to the Time
Zones, it has to be the 24th in Israel to account for the
2-day Time Zone calibration. This is to account for being the
23rd in the Western Hemisphere, etc. One’s point is that to
account for the 24th, then one has to factor the 25th of
September to have that be the 24th in the Western Hemisphere and
so on.
Otherwise, if it is on the 23rd in Israel, then the Rapture
will occur on the 22nd in the Western Hemisphere and so on.
This is the logic one is assuming. And as mentioned, one has to
stress, which has not been the case and is overlooked, is that
this Day Count presumes that not only is the Rapture to occur on
either the 23rd or 24th, but it is when the 7-Year
Tribulation is to start.
This notion is precisely why the day count has to start on
September 23, 2025 to account then for the math and model of
Pastor Joshua to work. It thus yields in having March 6, 2029 be
the midpoint of the Tribulation Point and then adding the +30
Days and not the +45 Days also to the day count to land on Yom
Kippur of September 15, 2032. So, to reiterate, one is just
having a hard time reconciling why Yom Teruah or the Feast of
Trumpets in 2032 will be totally bypassed.
Appointed Times (Moeds)
And why not add or what happens to
the +45 Days? I have to recount and reconsider the Prophetic
Pattern of the Menorah and the 7 Feast Days of YHVH as they are
fulfilled in Jesus, prophetically. Here is the logic and
reasoning behind the pattern. The Will of the Father is to have
sent the Son with this Plan of Redemption, etc. And the Will of
the Son is to have sent the Holy Spirit, etc., thus the
following.
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Jesus as the Lamb, Human, fulfilled within
a weeks’ time the following at His 1st coming.
1-Passover
2-Unleavened Bread
3-Fists Fruits (Barley)
Jesus resurrected, sent the Holy
Spirit to harvest a Gentile Bride until the Rapture as a
Harvest.
4-Pentecost
Jesus
as the Lion, Glorified Body, fulfills within a weeks’ time
the following at His 2nd coming.
5-Yom Teruah
6-Yom Kippur
7-Sukkot
One understands that the explanation for
‘passing over’ Yom Teruah in 2032 is that Jesus will have
fulfilled it with the Rapture on September 23, 2025. This is
just problematic for me to accept, at this time with that one
is understanding. As you may know, my working theory is that
the day count of the Tribulation Period, being equal parts of
1260 Days each with the +30 and then +45 extra days, are based
on when that 1st Daily Sacrifice is to be offered. Why? It
requires an Altar.
It is how then the midpoint of the
Tribulation Period will be and can be known. It is to be
calculated and known as the AntiChrist then stops it halfway,
etc. It is not the Rapture that initiates the Tribulation
Period. Thus, one’s critique is that Pastor Joshua’s day count
and model for the Tribulation Period to start on September 23,
2025 is not possible, at least in one’s estimation,
etc. But that is how the Pastor Joshua model is currently
being accepted, taught and anticipated. Again, no problem and
we shall see.
Now, as you all know also, one is
more convinced of a Summer Wheat Rapture Harvest typology or now
in this case an end of the New Wine harvest and the beginning of
the New Oil Harvest Rapture Theory. I am still holding-out on
the ‘Last Day’ of the Astronomical Summer, being September 22.
Yes, one is being dogmatic but consider the following video
teaching below.
It has given me hope again about the Summer Rapture pattern,
still of how the end of the Church Age, is indeed how the Book
of Ruth portrays it. It has all the amazing typologies of how
the Gentile Bride is redeemed 1st, in secret, in the Midnight
Hour. But then how the Redeemer, the Greater Boaz, Jesus will
then publicly redeem Israel, legally thereafter. Have a
look and listen. Here is what I commented on the Brothers
YouTube public comments.
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‘Excellent presentation and
understanding. As one who has developed the New Wine Rapture
Theory, obviously the Rapture did not occur on one's
calculated July 23 date or on the 9th of Av as other Brethren
calculated it. However, note that as there is that overlap you
mentioned, the Barley with the Wheat and then the Wheat with
the Wine, perhaps the pattern continues and is fulfilled in
the Wine overlapping with the Oil.
1
Barley meeting-up with the Wheat
2
Wheat meeting-up with the Wine
3
Wine meeting-up with the Oil.
This pattern would account for the 3 'Penta' or 50 day feasts
of the First Fruits of the New Wheat, New Wine and New Oil.
Based on this pattern, the end of the Summer Harvest will
occur astronomically on September 22. For 2025, it coincides
with the Fall Equinox and the Solar Eclipse over the region of
Christchurch, New Zealand’.
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Video
HOW DID WE MISS THIS
RAPTURE EVIDENCE!
Saved Skeptic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP2cLR665WM&lc=Ugx4ypfw-4dQG2MN7bx4AaABAg
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Now this next thought, I was not sure if to share, as it could
be problematic to some. The thought came to mind. I am pondering
it, so one will share it but with a qualifier as one will
explain. So, it has to do with the statement that Brother Joshua
said that he encountered Jesus, manifested in the Flesh, real as
in a person one would talk to naturally, that one could sense,
perceive, touch and talk to, etc. Consider the following
assertions regarding how this Jesus communicated Prophecy. Let
us consider that? Is it really the case?
1. Joshua stated that Jesus told him that, ‘From the time
Israel was established as a nation in 1948, there would be 77
Years to the Rapture’. This does not take ‘Prophecy’ to
calculate. In 2025, that is the 77th year,
mathematically. This is not ‘prophetic’ in one’s estimation.
2. Then the Jesus Pastor Joshua spoke to, stated that, ‘In
September 15, 2032, on Yom Kippur, I will return to Earth’, as
in Jesus’ 2nd coming, etc. This does not need any
Prophecy as the day count then presented has to be then from
September 23, 2025 to then account for the 1260 days and then
the 1260 days of the 2nd half of the Tribulation Period,
but then only factoring the +30 Days and not the +45 Days.
This is not ‘prophetic’ in one’s estimation.
3. The only ‘Prophecy’ that was and is in question, in one’s
mind is that ‘The Rapture will be on either September 23 or
24, 2025’. OK, No problem. But as discussed, this is now
elevated to ‘Thus says the LORD’, and directly from the mouth
of Jesus. This is then elevated to a higher critique and
accountability.
Time Zones
One’s point is that this ‘Jesus’ did not prophesy or give
information that the Body of Christ did not already know or does
not already know. It has been explained to me, possibly, why a
2-day is being offered for the Rapture and only 1 day for the
2nd coming in that has to do with the Time Zones. However,
one argues that at the 2nd coming, when Jesus touches down
on the Mount of Olives, Jesus, upon His return to Earth is still
nonetheless piercing space, matter and time.
And once that happens, Time Zones
become a factor to reckon. And in that case, if at the beginning
with the Rapture is to be a 2 day window, so does the
2nd Coming in that if September 15, 2032, Yom Kippur is
when Jesus said He will be returning, then it means that it will
have to be the 14th in the Western Hemisphere. Perhaps, one
is just overthinking and over-analyzing all this, as you all
know I do. So, one is just pondering the possibilities as we
only see and know in part, until the time comes,
retrospectively.
Regardless, it seems the U.N. will be dividing Israel’s Land. If
the Revelation 12 Sign is about a ‘Birthing’, then as one has
suggested, what will be birth is the State of Palestine. This is
monumental and on the 23rd of September and when the
Revelation 12 Sign, approximates astronomically for 2025. It is
incredible times to be witnessing all this being played-out. I
think that on 1 thing we would or could all agree on, is that
despite the differences of opinion or belief about the September
23, 2025 Rapture Prophecy, this year ‘feels’ and ‘seems’
different from all prior years, up to this point in time.
As mentioned, every Rosh HaShanah has been a yearly popular time
to be more watchful or expectant. But true, aside from the
Prophecy of Pastor Joshua, the elevation of so many Brethren
attesting to this Fall Feast or time-frame is undeniable and
something to take note of. Perhaps the emphasis has been as a
direct result of the September 23, 2025 Rapture Prophecy or the
Revelation 12 Sign Anniversary, the Assassination of Charlie
Kirk, or the 2-State Deception of the U.N., vote, etc.
There is a clear convergence occurring. For one’s part in
watching, when one has gotten to this point in time, we just do
not see everything at the moment. So, that is where we then know
that we just need to fall back on Scripture and do more of the
‘Watching’ part. Remember that in that Red Sea Moment when all
the Israelites were pinned between the water and the mountains,
Pharaoh's Army was coming to 'devour' them like a 'Red Dragon'.
They did not know what was coming next. But through Moses, it
took a Miracle to part the Red Sea as 'Door of Escape'. The
point is that they had to wait. Anxious?
Yes. Terrified? Yes. Expectancy? So, they looked to Moses. One
is reminded of how in the case of 2 Disciples of Jesus, there
was the instance when Peter told Jesus, paraphrasing: ‘No, you
will not go to the cross and die’. Then Jesus exposed where that
disposition was coming from, Satan. What? It was and is an
example of how in the very inner-circle of Jesus’ Ministry,
there was and is Lucifer suggesting and influencing the cause.
The other Disciple was Judas, as we read. Imagine having the
privilege of being with Jesus, the Creator walking amongst
creation and Judas seeing all the miracles and wisdom being
taught to the people. And yet, he was so persuaded by Lucifer,
that it is stated that Lucifer entered into his very being, or
got directly possessed. Now, this occurred after Judas gave
himself over to betray Jesus for money, etc. Unbelievable.
And there is the debate if Judas was ever ‘Saved’ to begin with.
We do understand that when the
Rapture event does occur, it will most likely be like that Red
Sea moment. So, we can only look to our Greater Moses that at
the Rapture moment will be parting of the clouds like the water
was that Red Sea moment. With that, there is an excitement and
anticipation of what will or could come next. We can trust that
whatever comes, will be as Jesus ordained it to occur in the
grand scale of things.
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