Hi
doves,
Concerning
the Revelation 12 sign in September 23th 2017, which has
already been widely covered and commented in various
websites, I’d like to share something that I noticed while
navigating on Stellarium website.
It’
clear that the woman in Revelation 12 is Israel, which is
depicted by constellation Virgo, and that the manchild
(“arsen huois” in Greek) is Jesus (depicted by planet
Jupiter), which was inside the body of the constellation
Virgo for 9 months, and then when the constellation was
clothed with the sun and the moon was under her feet on
Sept. 23 2017, Jupiter begins to leave the constellation
Virgo and move towards its orbit (in other words, was
"born").
Please
bear in mind that I’m NOT talking about ASTROLOGY, I’m
talking about signs in nature that can be observed in the
context of ASTRONOMY. God created the Heavens and the
movements of the planets. “The heavens declare the
glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.”
(Psalms 19:1)
The
question that came to my mind is that: what would depict the
Dragon in Revelation 12? Reading the passage with
careful eyes, and researching the meaning of the words on
websites and YouTube channels (I reccomend Brenda Weltner
YouTube channel, with lots of interesting insights), I
found out that the translation "man-child" in Rev 12:5 is
from the Greek "arsen huios" while the other word "child"
in the same verse has been translated from "teknon."
Therefore there are two different Greek words that have
both been translated as "child": manchild (arsen huois)
and child (teknon). They could refer to different
concepts, as Brenda Weltner explains in her vídeos. The
manchild is the Lord and the ‘child’ is the body of Christ
(the bride).
After
much considering that idea, it came to my mind that the
other part of the passage (the phenomenon with the other
child, having to do with a dragon) could also be depicted
in the heavens, and that the astronomical fulfillment
didn’t end in September 2017.
If
Jupiter depicts the manchild ("arsen huiois"), it seems to
me that "teknon" could mean another child, i.e., another
PLANET. I believe that this other child is the bride of
Christ, which could be depicted in the heavens by VENUS,
many months or years after the initial sign of the "birth"
of Jupiter in September 2017.
Then
I was very curious to find out what could depict the
"Dragon". I came to the conclusion (which might be
mistaken, it’s just a conjecture) that after passing
through constellation Virgo, the planets travel towards
constellation Libra and then towards constellation
SCORPIO. It's interesting to note that the name Scorpio
for this set of stars (constellation Scorpio) is not
universal. In some cultures (China, for example),
constellation Scorpio is also connected to the concept of
a DRAGON. This could be an explanation!
In: https://www.space.com/16947-scorpius-constellation.html
:
The Scorpio
constellation has intrigued people for centuries,
not only for its distinctive shape, but also because it is
one of the brightest constellations in the sky. The name
is Latin for scorpion, or literally translated as the
"creature with the burning sting." However, Scorpio
is not a scorpion to everyone. The Javanese
people of Indonesia call this constellation Banyakangrem,
meaning "the brooded swan" or Kalapa Doyong, meaning
"leaning coconut tree." In Hawaii, it is known as the
demigod Maui's Fishhook. In
Chinese mythology, the constellation was part of the
Azure Dragon.
In: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorpius_in_Chinese_astronomy
In: https://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/constellations/scorpius.html
The story behind the
name: Scorpio is one of the 12 constellations included in
the Zodiac. Considered to be among the oldest
constellations recognized by human civilizations, these 12
patterns were of particular significance to ancient
cultures like the Babylonians because, as the Babylonian
astronomers noticed, they mark the path through which our
Sun, moon and planets appear to travel through the course
of a year. The stars of Scorpio trace out the spine of
the Scorpion (or of a dragon,
according to Chinese legend), making it perhaps
the most faithfully rendered constellation in the sky.
Therefore
I believe that the next “child” (planet) we should be
watching, after the initial rare sign of Revelation 12:2
concerning Jupiter might be the movement of planet Venus
from the body of Virgo and then towards Scorpio.
Symbolically, a 'dragon' would be trying to devour it (the
'teknon' child, which I’m suggesting could be Venus) but
it will continue to move on in its orbit, and will even
have a future conjuction with planet Jupiter. Please
check in Stellarium web. Amazing!!!
In
many future years, around the month of October or
November, this phenomenon happens. I don't know if this
explanation is right, but it's a possibility that came to
my mind a few days ago.
Of
course the transit of Venus inside Virgo and then moving
on to Scorpio IS NOT AS RARE as the Revelation 12 sign
concerning Jupiter in September 2017. But It COULD be an
indication of the timing of the flight of the other
‘child’ to God. I wouldn’d be surprised if the Church is
raptured exactly on a day that has this symbolism taking
place in the heavens (Venus travelling towards Scorpio).
This phenomenon takes place in many years and, as I said,
is NOT rare. But it’s something that is worthy to be
watched. Especially after the initial Revelation 12 sign
concerning Jupiter, in September 2017.
If
the 24 Elders in Revelation 4 depict the Church being
assembled in front of the Throne room of God, this seems
to be the place called “The Holy of Holies”. We must
remember that, in scriptures, the High Priest could only
enter the Holy of Holies on the day of “Yom Kippur” (the
10th of Tishri). It’s interesting to note that if the
correspondence that I made above is right (Venus entering
constellation Scorpio, meaning ‘Dragon’, months or years
AFTER the initial Revelation 12 sign in September 2017),
it could match the date of Yom Kippur in some years that
this sign occurs in the heavens.
Of
course we can search Google to find out the day that the
planets enter the constellations. I came across a website
that mentioned that Venus enters Scorpio on October 8th
2019. If anything prophetical should happen in 2019, it’s
a huge coincidence that the second part of Revelation 12
sign happens on that date
When Venus will
be in Scorpio according to https://www.moontracks.com/venus_ingress.html
Venus
Sep 09, 2018 09:29
Scorpio - I
Venus
Oct 05, 2018 19:04
Scorpio - S/R
Venus
Dec 02, 2018 16:54
Scorpio - I
Venus
Oct 08, 2019 17:06 Scorpio
- I - à eve of Yom Kippur according to
Hebcal.com
Venus
Nov 21,
2020 13:21 Scorpio - I
I
understand that the entering of Venus in Scorpio (to mean
something) must be preceded by the transit of Venus in
constellation Virgo. So it would be a good ideal to check
Stellarium.
I
have no idea if this line of thought has any basis. I’m
just sharing as an exercise, so we can ellaborate together
in this forum. Much more in conceptual terms than in
regard to dates.
Please
note that I’m not saying that I believe that the
final seven years before the Second Coming have already
started or anything like that. I simply don’t know. What
I’m saying is that the Revelation 12 sign could
have a two phase fulfillment in terms of astronomy signs.
The first part (concerning the manchild depicted by
Jupiter) in Sept. 2017 (meaning that we are very close to
the day the Bridegroom comes to catch us away) and the
second part (concerning the child depicted by Venus) in
the year of the rapture of the Church, which we don’t know
which year it will be.
Please
forgive any mistakes in my English.
Warmest
regards and blessings from Brazil,
ElianeB