Marilyn Agee (21 Sep 2014)
"Pastor Bob (7 Sep 2014) ""Error of Pre-Wrath Rapture"""


Subject: Pastor Bob (7 Sep 2014) ""Error of Pre-Wrath Rapture""
 
Hi:
 
> > A huge error made by those that hold to a Mid-Tribulation and Pre-Wrath Rapture is that of assuming the Gospel of Matthew, and, concluding that Jesus' words in the New Testament is meant for the Church.  It is erroneous to conclude Matthew's words are for the Church.  Jesus was addressing the Jewish folks of His day, not the future Church, which Jesus only alluded to first in Matthew 16:18.  This is one of those examples where only a Dispensational interpretation of Scripture offers a cohesive and comprehensive message that makes sense.
 
However, 2Ti_3:16 says, “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness”. We can’t get around that.
 
Jesus/God, was speaking mainly to the apostles while he was on Earth. Jesus was of Israel. The apostles were of Israel, but GOD was talking to mankind. He did not just die for Israel. He died that the whole world might be saved. He just told the story to Israel first.
 
“FOR THE EDIFYING OF THE BODY OF CHRIST”
 
Eph 4:4-13 says, “THERE IS ONE BODY, and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in ONE HOPE OF YOUR CALLING; 5  One Lord, ONE FAITH, one baptism, 6  One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. 7  But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. 8  Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. 9  (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10  He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11  And he gave some, APOSTLES; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12  For the perfecting of the SAINTS, for the work of the ministry, FOR THE EDIFYING OF THE BODY OF CHRIST: 13  Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ”.
 
THERE WILL BE A PRE-WRATH RAPTURE “AT THE LAST TRUMP” OF GOD
 
That’s Scripture, and, as you know,  it doesn’t mean the 7th trumpet of judgment.
 
Those judgment trumpets are sounded by angels. They take place AFTER the wrath of God hits Earth. The 144,000 Israelites and a great multitude, too many to count, are raptured in Rev. 7:9-14 just BEFORE Satan’s asteroid Wormwood hits Earth and obliterates Babylon.
 
Like the meteorite that was taken out of Lake Chebarkul in Chelyabinsk region, Russia, the asteroid Wormwood will set fires as it comes in over Russia.
 
Ten districts of Chelyabinsk region experienced devastation from the blast wave caused by the meteorite. That explosion damaged buildings in Chelyabinsk, Emanzhelinsk, Etkul, Kopeisk, Korkino, Chebarkul, Yuzhnouralsk, Zlatoust, Troitsk, Uvelsky and Krasnoarmeisky areas, and the village of Rose.
 
TWO METEORITES HAVE HIT CHEBARKUL LAKE AT DIFFERENT TIMES, ESTABLISHING THE TRAJECTORY OF THE INCOMING ASTEROID THAT WILL DESTROY BABYLON
 
This is the second time a meteor has fallen in the Chelyabinsk region of Russia that I know about. In June 1949 a meteor called ‘Kunashak’ landed in the area. 20 pieces, with the total weight of 200 kg, were found. One of the segments of the meteor was said by locals to have fallen in Chebarkul lake, the same body of water hit by a piece of Friday's fireball.
 
These are probably pieces of Satan’s planet Rahab, sister pieces of Satan’s asteroid Wormwood, flying in nearly the same trajectory, flight path, as Wormwood, which will destroy literal Babylon on the Day of God’s Wrath, which is also the Day of Jacob’s Trouble.
 
Jer_30:7 says, “Alas! for that DAY (yom, sunset to sunset) is great, so that NONE is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.”
 
Rev 8:6-13 says, “And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. 8  And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea (i.e., the Mediterranean): and the third part of the sea became blood; 9  And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. 10  And the third angel sounded, and THERE FELL A GREAT STAR FROM HEAVEN, BURNING AS IT WERE A LAMP, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11  And the name of the star is called Wormwood (meaning bitter): and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. 12  And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise. 13  And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!”
 
Isa 22:16-19 says, “What hast thou here (Babylon)? and whom hast thou here (the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock? (i.e., Wormwood)17  Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. 18  HE WILL SURELY VIOLENTLY TURN AND TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. 19  And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down.”
 
Eze_39:6 says, “And I will send a fire on Magog (i.e., Russia), and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.”
 
Rev 18:21 says, “And a mighty angel took up a stone (Wormwood) like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.”
 
HERE IS THE SEQUENCE GIVEN IN REVELATION 6:17, 7:9-17, 8:1,2 AND HAB_2:20
 
1. Rev 6:17 says, “For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?”
 
2. Rev 7:9-17 says, “After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10  And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11  And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12  Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. 13  And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? (i.e., they came from Earth) 14  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION (i.e., the last half of the Tribulation), and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15  Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple (i.e., in Heaven): and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. 16  They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17  For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.”
 
THERE IS SILENCE IN HEAVEN AND EARTH WHILE THE JUDGE, JESUS, IS BEING SEATED AS JUDGE AT THE BEMA SEAT ON THE DAY OF GOD’S WRATH
 
Joh_5:22 says, “For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son”.
 
Rev 8:1,2 says, “And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. 2  And I saw the seven ANGELS which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.”
 
Hab_2:20 says, “But the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the earth keep silence before him.”
 
SINCE I COR 15:51-54 IS THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE, THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE IS IN 1 THESS 4:13-18
   
It says, “But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren  (i.e., believers), concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14  For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent (phthano, precede) them which are asleep. 16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP OF GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18  Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”
 
THE LAST “TRUMP OF GOD” RAPTURE IS A MYSTERY
 
I Cor 15:51-55 (KJV) says, “Behold, I shew you a mystery; We (i.e., including Paul) shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed (allasso, made different), 52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP (eschatos salpigx, final trumpet): FOR THE TRUMPET SHALL SOUND, AND THE DEAD SHALL BE RAISED INCORRUPTIBLE, AND WE (i.e., those caught up in both Raptures) SHALL BE CHANGED. 53  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54  So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption (i.e., at either Rapture), and this mortal shall have put on immortality (only after the last Rapture), then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55  O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?”
 
OTHER SCRIPTURES AGREE IF YOU LOOK CAREFULLY
 
Rom 5:9 says, “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, WE (i.e., including Paul) SHALL BE SAVED FROM WRATH through him.”
 
Joh_6:39 says, “And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should RAISE IT UP AGAIN AT THE LAST DAY.”
 
Joh_6:40  And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I WILL RAISE HIM UP AT THE LAST DAY.”
 
Joh 6:44 says, “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I WILL RAISE HIM UP AT THE LAST DAY.”
 
Joh_6:54 says, “Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I WILL RAISE HIM UP AT THE LAST DAY.”
 
Joh_11:24 says, “Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in THE RESURRECTION AT THE LAST DAY.”
 
Joh_12:48  He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: THE WORD THAT I HAVE SPOKEN, THE SAME SHALL JUDGE HIM IN THE LAST DAY” (i.e., on the Day of God’s Wrath, the great and terrible Day of the Lord, THE ONLY DAY OF THE JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST).
 
THE LAST TRUMP TAKES PLACE ON THE DAY OF GOD’S WRATH, THE ONLY DAY OF THE JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST
 
The Judgment seat of Christ only takes place on one literal day, the great and terrible DAY OF GOD’S WRATH, BUT BEFORE THE WRATH HITS EARTH.
 
Isaiah 28:18,22 says, “Your covenant with death will be annulled, And your agreement with Sheol will not stand; When the overflowing scourge passes through, Then you will be trampled down by it.... Now therefore, do not be mockers, Lest your bonds be made strong; For I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts, A destruction determined even upon the whole earth.”
 
FIRST, THE ONES CAUGHT UP IN THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE ARE GATHERED TO THE JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST ON THE DAY OF THE LORD
 
Mat 24:31 says, “And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other.”
 
THEN, THE ONES CAUGHT UP IN THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE ARE GATHERED TO THE JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST
 
Mar 13:27 says, “And then (tote, at that time) shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, FROM THE UTTERMOST PART OF THE EARTH TO THE UTTERMOST PART OF HEAVEN.”
 
Rev 6:12-17 says, “And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13  And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14  And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17  For THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH IS COME; and who shall be able to stand?” (i.e., only those that stand before the throne of Jesus on the DAY OF GOD’S WRATH).
 
ALL SAINTS ARE GATHERED TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IN HEAVEN ON THE DAY OF GOD’S WRATH, WHICH IS ALSO THE DAY OF THE JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST
 
Heb 12:22-27 says, “But ye (i.e., those caught up in the LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE) are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23  To the GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND CHURCH OF THE FIRSTBORN (i.e., those already caught up in the FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE), which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24  And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel (meaning vanity). 25  See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape (i.e., be Raptured), if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: 26  Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. 27  And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.”
 
Satan and his fallen angels are cast out of Heaven Mid-Trib.
 
Rev 11:1-19 says, “And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13  And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 14  The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. 15  And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16  And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17  Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come (i.e., the Second Advent will take place on the first day of the Jubilee Year, probably Nisan 1, 5776, Sat., April 9, 2016, following the Sabbatical Year 5775); because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18  And the nations were angry, and THY WRATH IS COME, AND THE TIME OF THE DEAD, THAT THEY SHOULD BE JUDGED, AND THAT THOU SHOULDEST GIVE REWARD UNTO THY SERVANTS THE PROPHETS, AND THE TO SAINTS, AND THEM THAT FEAR THY NAME, SMALL AND GREAT; AND SHOULDEST DESTROY THEM WHICH DESTROY THE EARTH. 19  And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.”
 
EVEN THE ANGELS WILL BE JUDGED ON THE GREAT DAY OF GOD’S WRATH
 
Jud_1:6  And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.”
 
Rev_6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?”
 
THE LAST-DAY RAPTURE IS ON THE DAY OF THE JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST, THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD
 
There is a first-day Rapture and a last-day Rapture, and the Last-Day Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54 is also the Day of the Judgment Seat of Christ, the Day of the Lord, the Day of God’s Wrath. Like Solomon, as soon as Jesus receives his millennial kingdom, he will purge it of evil men.
 
PROOF THAT THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE WILL BE ON THE DAY OF GOD’S WRATH
 
Psalm 27:5 says, “For IN THE TIME OF TROUBLE (i.e., the Day of God’s Wrath) HE SHALL HIDE ME IN HIS PAVILION (sok, tabernacle); In the secret of His tabernacle (ohel, dwelling place; i.e., that the location of HIS PAVILION is the “third heaven”, as in 2Cor 12:2-4) he shall hide me; he shall set me up upon a ROCK.”
 
Some don’t think the third heaven is a rock, but the Creator knows that it is.
 
Isa 26:20,21 says, “Come, my people (i.e., this is the Last-Trump Rapture), enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation (zaam, strictly froth at the mouth fury, i.e., God’s Wrath) be overpast. 21  For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place (i.e., Heaven) to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.”
 
This is not the Second Advent, which will come on the first day of the Jubilee Year, the following Nisan 1.
 
Rev 7:9-17 says, “After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10  And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11  And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12  Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. 13  And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, THESE ARE THEY WHICH CAME OUT OF (i.e., were Raptured out of) GREAT TRIBULATION (i.e., the last half of the 7-yr. Tribulation), and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15  Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. 16  They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17  For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.”
 
THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE WILL BE ABOUT 1260 DAYS BEFORE THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE, i.e., MID-TRIB   
 
Rev 11:1-3 says, “And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE, and measure the temple of God (i.e., we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit), and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2  But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3  And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth.”
 
THIS “RISE” IS THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE OF REV. 4:1
 
Rev 4:1-4 says, “behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a TRUMPET talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2  And immediately I was (lit., BECAME) in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one (i.e., Jesus Christ, the first and the last) sat on the throne. 3  And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper (last stone in the breastplate) and a sardine stone (first stone in the breastplate): and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald (Judah’s stone in the breastplate, i.e., Jesus is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah). 4  And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.”
 
In Rev. 10:8, John was told to prophesy “AGAIN”. Therefore, the “RISE” of Rev 11:1 is the same as the “COME UP HITHER” of Rev. 4:1.
 
BOTH RAPTURES ARE IN REV. 11, THE “RISE” IN VERSE 1 AND THE “COME UP HITHER” IN VERSE 12, AND THEY ARE SPACED BY 1260 DAYS, WHICH SHOWS THAT THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE CANNOT BE ANY EARLIER THAN MID-TRIB   
 
Rev 11:1,2 says, “And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2  But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.”
 
> > A huge error made by those that hold to a Mid-Tribulation and Pre-Wrath Rapture is that of assuming the Gospel of Matthew, and, concluding that Jesus' words in the New Testament is meant for the Church.

2TI 3:16 says, “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness”.
 
ON THE DAY OF THE SECOND RAPTURE, PEOPLE WILL LOOK UP AND SEE THE SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN IN THE SKY
 
In Mat_24:30,31, Jesus said, “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30  And then (tote, at that time) shall appear THE SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN in heaven: and then (tote, at that time) shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other.”
 
These gathered in HEAVEN include those caught up in the First-Trump Rapture of I Thess. 4:13-18.
 
It says, “But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14  For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent (phthano, precede) them which are asleep. 16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP OF GOD (i.e., the FIRST TRUMP, NOT THE LAST TRUMP): and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17  Then (epeita, thereafter) we which are alive and remain shall be caught up (harpazo, taken up, i.e., raptured) together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18  Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”
 
Mar 13:26,27 says, “And then (tote, at that time) shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds (i.e., they see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky) with great power and glory. 27  And then (tote, at that time) shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth (i.e., the LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE) to the uttermost part of heaven” (i.e., those previously caught up in the FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE).
 
Dan 12:1  And at that time (i.e., at the Last-Trump Rapture on the Day of God’s Wrath) shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble (i.e., the Day of God’s Wrath), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people (i.e., the 144,000 Israelites) shall be delivered (malat, escape, leap out), every one that shall be found written in the book.”
 
THE 144,000 ISRAELITES JUST MAKE IT OUT OF HERE BEFORE THE ASTEROID WORMWOOD IMPACTS EARTH
 
Jer_30:6-9 says, “Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness? 7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it. 8  For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him: 9  But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.”
 
Mat_10:22 says, “And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.”
 
Mat_24:13 says, “But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.”
 
Mar_13:13 says, “And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.”
 
Act 2:19-21 says, “And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20  The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: 21  And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
 
Rev 6:12,13 says, “And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13  And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth”.
 
Rom_10:13 says, “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
 
Rom_11:26 says, “And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob”.
 
> > The trumpet of Matthew 24:31 cannot be the last Trump of 1st Corinthians 15:51-53 either because it's the Lord's signal to His angels to round up the elect in Heaven.  At the Rapture the trumpet call of God is to alert believers on Earth.  Also He's sending angles, (plural), to do this.  In 1st Thessalonians 4:16-17 only the archangel is mentioned in connection with the trumpet call of God.  And finally, in Matthew 24:31 the elect He was speaking of are already in Heaven.

> > While Mark 13:26-27 tells us the angels will gather His elect from both Heaven and Earth, In Mark's account no mention is made of a trumpet.  This means while the trumpet will not be heard on Earth, there will be members of His elect still on Earth.  These are people who will have survived the Great Tribulation and became believers in the process.  But it does not imply or mean they are part of the Church.
Put these verses together. Those that were caught up to Heaven in the First-Trump Rapture are gathered together, and those on Earth are gathered up in the Last-Trump Rapture. At this time, the entire Body of Christ is complete. They can be made immortal as in 1 Cor 15:51-54.
 
It says, “Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54  So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.”
 
Zec 9:14-16 says, “And the LORD shall be seen over them (i.e., they will see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky), and his arrow (chets, piercer, i.e., the asteroid Wormwood) shall go forth as the lightning (baraq, concretely a flashing sword): and the Lord GOD shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south. 15  The LORD of hosts shall defend them; and they shall devour, and subdue with sling stones; and they shall drink, and make a noise as through wine; and they shall be filled like bowls, and as the corners of the altar. 16 And the LORD their God shall save them in that day as the flock of his people: for they shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon his land.”
 
Psa_146:9 says, “The LORD preserveth the strangers; he relieveth the fatherless and widow: but the way of the wicked he turneth upside down.”
 
Mat 24:30,31 says, “And then (tote, at that time) shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then (tote, at that time) shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31  And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”
 
Mar 13:27  And then (tote, at that time) shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.”
 
Earth got a warning last Sunday. There was a newly discovered asteroid flyby 3,000 miles out. Three thousand miles away is a near miss. To me, it is a warning of things to come. The next may not be just a flyby. It may split in two at the Roche Limit and hit Earth. The mountain-sized piece will hit the NE Mediterranean Sea. Wormwood, a larger piece, will hit Babylon. Earth will be knocked upside down.
 
Agape,
Marilyn Agee
prophecycorner.theforeverfamily.com
 
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Pastor Bob (7 Sep 2014)
""Error of Pre-Wrath Rapture""

All Doves:

A huge error made by those that hold to a Mid-Tribulation and Pre-Wrath Rapture is that of assuming the Gospel of Matthew, and, concluding that Jesus' words in the New Testament is meant for the Church.  It is erroneous to conclude Matthew's words are for the Church.  Jesus was addressing the Jewish folks of His day, not the future Church, which Jesus only alluded to first in Matthew 16:18.  This is one of those examples where only a Dispensational interpretation of Scripture offers a cohesive and comprehensive message that makes sense. 

The fact is that Matthew 24 is not for the Church.  Nothing in the text of Matthew 24 requires a Church-centered interpretation and a careful examination shows it to be specifically addressed to Israel.  Most of those holding to a position other than a Pre-Tribulation position make erroneous conclusions in regards to the entire Olivet Discourse due to assuming that because the Gospel of Matthew is within the New Testament corpus text.  For years, every Methodist, Nazarene, Wesleyan, Presbyterian, Christian, Church of Christ pastor that I knew could never present a formidable argument for the Olivet Discourse referring to the Church.  Because they did not see the distinct difference between Israel and the Church, they were in a double bind, and I saw myself in the same camp dilemma.

In the first place, Jesus had only noted the Church in two passages of Matthew, 16:18 and 18:17.  You will not find the word, anywhere in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke or John.  The first reference to the church is in the book of Acts, chapter 2:47; with a total of 18X additional references in the book of Acts.  There are no recorded words to the effect by Jesus Christ that it would interrupt Daniel's 70 Week Prophecy, and thus leaving one week of seven years unfulfilled.  As far as the disciples knew, they were 483 weeks into Daniel's 490 year prophecy and were only 7 years short of the end of the age.  That is precisely why they were so surprised to hear Him say everything would be torn down without one stone left standing upon another.

And even as He was explaining how the end of the age would unfold, He never mentioned the subject of the Church.  Had He done so, they wouldn't have asked Him if He was going to restore the kingdom to Israel while they were standing on the Mount of of Olives following His resurrection in Acts 1:6.  This has led to some experts to conclude that all of Matthew 24 deals with Daniel's 70th week from Israel's perspective alone.

The fact is that it is Israel much more than the future Church who has been and will be persecuted and put to death, and hated by all nations -(Matthew 24:9).  It's Israel who has to stand firm to the end to be saved -(Matthew 24:13).  Israel is warned to flee into the mountains of Judea when they see the abomination of desolation -(Matthew 24:15-16).  Israel has to pray their flight will not take place on the Sabbath or in winter -(Matthew 24:20).  Israel has to be wary of false Messiahs -(Matthew 24:23-24).

Also, there's no mention of the Church ever being "the elect" in the Gospels.  In the only two references to the Church in Matthew, He did not use any form of the Greek word for "elect".  The first clear reference of the Church as the elect did not happen until Romans 8:33 which Paul wrote twenty years after the resurrection of the Lord Christ Jesus.  On the other hand, Jesus was called God's "elect" in Isaiah 42:1.  Israel was called God's "elect" in Isaiah 45:4; 65:9; 65:22, and angels were called His "elect" in 1st Timothy 5:21.

To think that the disciples would have understood the Lord to be referring to the Church in Matthew 24:22, 24, 31 is not justified, nor substantiated anywhere and thus is an unwarranted assumption.

A plain sense reading of the book of Revelation tells us that the time of God's Wrath begins with the seal judgments -(Revelation 6:16-17) and ends with the Bowl judgments in Revelation 15:1.  The fact that those believers holding the Mid-Trib and Pre-Wrath do not accept that means they haven't accepted God's Word as written.

  seventh trumpet of Revelation 11:15 is never called the last trump in the Bible, as in 1st Corinthians 15:51-53, or the trumpet call of God, as in 1st Thessalonians 4:16-17.  It is simply the final trumpet in the series of Trumpet judgments.  It's not blown on Earth but in Heaven.  Also, there is no connection between the seventh trumpet and the Second Coming.  Revelation 11:15 tells us that in Heaven the seventh trumpet signals that the Lord has taken command of the kingdoms of the world, but His return to Earth doesn't begin until Revelation 19:11-16.
  
The trumpet of Matthew 24:31 cannot be the last Trump of 1st Corinthians 15:51-53 either because it's the Lord's signal to His angels to round up the elect in Heaven.  At the Rapture the trumpet call of God is to alert believers on Earth.  Also He's sending angles, (plural), to do this.  In 1st Thessalonians 4:16-17 only the archangel is mentioned in connection with the trumpet call of God.  And finally, in Matthew 24:31 the elect He was speaking of are already in Heaven.

While Mark 13:26-27 tells us the angels will gather His elect from both Heaven and Earth, In Mark's account no mention is made of a trumpet.  This means while the trumpet will not be heard on Earth, there will be members of His elect still on Earth.  These are people who will have survived the Great Tribulation and became believers in the process.  But it does not imply or mean they are part of the Church.

The idea that the separation of the Rapture/Resurrection from the Second Coming would require a third coming does not make sense, nor does it stand up under scrutiny for several reasons.  First, at the Rapture the Lord doesn't come to Earth to get us, we go up in the clouds to meet Him.

Second, if every time He left Heaven to come to Earth was a "coming" then this Second Coming would have taken place on the day He was resurrected.  In the morning, He told Mary not to cling to Him because He had not yet ascended to His Father -(John 20:17).  Hebrews 9:11-12 tells us He was going to sprinkle His blood on the altar in the Tabernacle in Heaven.  But that afternoon He was back on Earth where He met two disciples on the road to Emmaus -(Luke 24:13-16).  Who knows how many times He's been back and forth since then?

Third, the Second Coming is a particular event where He publicly descends to Earth in power and great glory to take His position as King of the whole Earth.  The number of times He's been here and back in the mean time is really irrelevant. 

"And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.  For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day."  -(John 6:39-40). 

The phrase "last day" appears twice in these verses.  The Greek word here for "last" "eschate" from its root "eschatos" means "Last, least, final, farthest, extreme, latter", in this specific case the "last in time or place".  It often refers to the last one in a series of events.   The first resurrection, the resurrection of believers, is such a series.  Jesus Christ was the first fruits.  Then we have the Church -(1st Thessalonians 4:16-17), then the Tribulation martyrs -(Revelation 20:4), and then the Old Testament believers -(Daniel 12:2).  These are all part of the first resurrection, which is not a single event, but a single "type", those who are resurrected to eternal life.  There is no requirement that they all have to happen on the day of the Lord's Coming, this is an assumption.  In fact, only the tribulation martyrs are specifically indicated to be resurrected on that very day.  Jesus could very easily have been referring to Old Testament believers, some of whom were no doubt standing before Him as He spoke, who will also be resurrected at the time of the Second Coming.  The point of this is that you cannot use John 6:39-40 to prove a Post-Trib Rapture of the Church.

"If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened" -(Matthew 24:22).  John, who heard the Lord speak these words first hand on the Mount of Olives, also heard the duration of the Great Tribulation described by the Lord again as being 42 months long -(Revelation 11:2) 1,260 days long -(Revelation 1:6) and 3-1/2 years long -(Revelation 12:14).  Using the 360-day year these are equivalent times.  The detail is further evidence that Christ Jesus wanted to impress that time frame upon His audience.

There are only two possibilities here.  Either John made a huge mistake or the Lord didn't mean He would shorten the number of days.  The Great Tribulation is one of the most carefully measured periods of time in the Bible beginning with Daniel 9:27, where it's half of seven years, Daniel 12:7 where it's time, times, and a half -(3-1/2) and the three references noted in the paragraph above.  They are all the same.

Many scholars have interpreted Matthew 24:22 to mean if the Lord didn't put a stop to the Great Tribulation at its appointed time but let it run its course no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect He will bring it to a close at the appointed time.  This is consistent with the various measurements.  Therefore the assumption that the Great Tribulation will be shortened is not a good one to adopt as your cornerstone for a Pre-Wrath position.

The question to ask is, does Matthew 24:29 equal Revelation 6:12?  "Immediately after the distress of those days the Sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken"  -(Matthew 24:29).  Jesus was quoting Isaiah 13:10 where the context is the after effects of the day of the Lord.  "I watched as he opened the sixth seal.  There was a great earthquake.  The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind -(Revelation 6:12-13).  John was quoting Joel 2:31 where the context is a sign that the day of the Lord is coming.

The two verses are similar but not the same.  Matthew 24:29 shows one of the results of the day of the Lord, whereas Revelation 6:12-13 describes a warning that precedes the day of the Lord.  Later on in the book of Revelation the Sun is so hot that it burns people -(Revelation 16:8-9), but when the Sun goes out in Matthew 24:29 it will never come back -(Revelation 21:23-24).  The two verses do not describe the same thing.  Therefore there is no justification for saying that Revelation 6:12-13 is describing the end of the Great Tribulation.

The saints of Revelation 7:9-17 are not the Church!  They are from every nation, tribe, people and language so they are of both Jewish and Gentile origin.  They have washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb, so they are saved believers.  They will serve God day and night in His Temple, but are not called priests, and they have no other responsibilities so they are not Kings, so they are not the Church.

In Revelation 7:14 one of the elders tells John they have come out of the Great Tribulation, but the English translation is misleading.  The Greek word translated "out of" literally means out of both the time and place of the event being referenced, in this case the Great Tribulation.  This means they will have been martyred during the Seal judgments.  According to the Pre-Wrath view the Seal judgments are the Great Tribulation.  But the Greek language of Revelation 7 says they will be martyred before the Great Tribulation, which in a chronological reading of the book of Revelation begins on Earth in Revelation 13.  So for these reasons the martyrs of Revelation 7 cannot be the Raptured Church.

The Pre-Wrath Rapture uses terms that do not appear in the Bible, such as (Man's Wrath, Satan's Wrath, etc.).  It re-interprets parts of Matthew 24, and violates the chronological order of the book of Revelation.  Of all the Rapture positions, it's the most difficult to justify from a Biblical standpoint.  From a Dispenstional hermeneutic, it's impossible!

The Bible is not a book of multiple choices.  There's only one God, one Heaven, one Earth, one Israel, one Church, one Savior, one way to salvation, and ONE Rapture of the Church.  The only Rapture position that is true to a literal, contextually pure interpretation of Scripture is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, and its coming soon.  You can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah.  In fact, one of the best books that goes into detail on what I have dealt with here is named by that expression, 'Footsteps of the Messiah' by Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum. 

The major error of the Pre-Wrath Rapture position is in assuming too much from the Gospel of Matthew.  No matter how much you twist and torture Matthew to fit their way of thinking on Daniel's 70th Week prophecy, there is no way to come to an honest interpretation of Scripture, other than the Pre-Tribulation Rapture position.  Their first error is based upon an erroneous understanding of ecclesiology, and then they make an erroneous understanding of eschatology.  Even more detrimental is their effort to view Scripture through an allegorical interpretation of all Scripture.   You can try to jam the puzzle pieces together anyway you want, but unless all the pieces fit perfectly together, you have merely deceived yourself and confused others.  The Mid-Trib and Pre-Wrath is a hopeless end in itself.

Keep looking up,

God bless

Pastor Bob