Paul Wilson (15
Sep 2012)
"Fullness When????"
It appears again I must ask where it says that the rapture is
the “fullness of the gentiles” and what that term even means.
If the "fullness of the gentiles” is the full number of gentiles
to ever be saved then it can’t be till at LEAST mid trib since
they accept this Anti-Christ as messiah (who will come in his
own name not the father’s name) for the first half so they won’t
be turning to God then. Given scriptures where the Jews will ask
him about the wounds in his hands and looking upon the one they
had pierced and mourning it appears they don’t come to know
Jesus as messiah till the END of the trib when Jesus comes with
the saints. How else will they have a conversation with him
about his wounds if he is not there?? when else do they see the
one they had pierced except in the second coming?? Other than
the 144,000 there isn’t any reference to Jews en masse coming to
Jesus in the trib especially the beginning.
If the “fullness of the gentiles” is the time when God turns his
attention back to the Jews, and restarts the prophetic clocked
stopped after 69 weeks, I don’t see anything then FORBIDDING
gentile salvation in the trib. there are many gentiles who have
NEVER heard the gospel. If only Jews can be saved in the trib
then these are out of luck. Too bad so sad. Or perhaps they must
first convert to Judaism then they can be saved. There are many
gentiles who have been misinformed on Jesus or the bible and if
given the correct info WOULD choose Christ. Again if only Jews
are saved in the trib then these people who would convert are to
die and go to hell because they were taught wrong.
It is much more in the character of God to continue to save
gentiles in the trib till no more gentiles that will receive
Christ exist. Which probably will be either at mid point or
shortly after. Yes his focus will be on Israel but he will not
abandon those who could be saved because they are gentile. Yes
those who have completely rejected the gospel almost certainly
would be given a delusion as that is what they want but those
who are confused by false teaching but are still open to the
proper teaching and those who have never heard the gospel will
not receive the delusion unless they reject Jesus after the
truth is offered.
Paul