Paul Wilson (15 Sep 2012)
"Fullness When????"


It appears again I must ask where it says that the rapture is the “fullness of the gentiles” and what that term even means.
 
If the "fullness of the gentiles” is the full number of gentiles to ever be saved then it can’t be till at LEAST mid trib since they accept this Anti-Christ as messiah (who will come in his own name not the father’s name) for the first half so they won’t be turning to God then. Given scriptures where the Jews will ask him about the wounds in his hands and looking upon the one they had pierced and mourning it appears they don’t come to know Jesus as messiah till the END of the trib when Jesus comes with the saints. How else will they have a conversation with him about his wounds if he is not there?? when else do they see the one they had pierced except in the second coming?? Other than the 144,000 there isn’t any reference to Jews en masse coming to Jesus in the trib especially the beginning.
 
If the “fullness of the gentiles” is the time when God turns his attention back to the Jews, and restarts the prophetic clocked stopped after 69 weeks, I don’t see anything then FORBIDDING gentile salvation in the trib. there are many gentiles who have NEVER heard the gospel. If only Jews can be saved in the trib then these are out of luck. Too bad so sad. Or perhaps they must first convert to Judaism then they can be saved. There are many gentiles who have been misinformed on Jesus or the bible and if given the correct info WOULD choose Christ. Again if only Jews are saved in the trib then these people who would convert are to die and go to hell because they were taught wrong.
 
It is much more in the character of God to continue to save gentiles in the trib till no more gentiles that will receive Christ exist. Which probably will be either at mid point or shortly after. Yes his focus will be on Israel but he will not abandon those who could be saved because they are gentile. Yes those who have completely rejected the gospel almost certainly would be given a delusion as that is what they want but those who are confused by false teaching but are still open to the proper teaching and those who have never heard the gospel will not receive the delusion unless they reject Jesus after the truth is offered.
 
Paul