Francisco (10 Sep 2011)
"Regarding 1Thess 4:13-18"


Dear John and Doves, 

Regarding 1Thess 4:13-18


We should be waiting not for the Rapture itself, rather first for the Separation,

which will be a sign to the Coming and the Rapture on the Day of Christ.

Now, before the Separation (Apostasia), there will be one important sign, the

start of the war by the Arabs, as per Psalm 83.

1Thess 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brothers, concerning

them which are asleep, that you sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 

14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which

sleep in Jesus will God bring with him15For this we say to you by the word

of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain to the coming of the Lord shall

not prevent them which are asleep16For the Lord himself shall descend from

heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:

and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain

shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the

air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18You should comfort one another

with these words.

And then, on the second letter, the Thessalonians are given these words:

2Thess 2:1 Now we beseech you, brothers, by the coming of our Lord Jesus

Christ, and by our gathering together to him, 2That you be not soon shaken

in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from

us, as that the day of Christ could be imminent. 3Let no man deceive you by

any means: for that day shall not come, except there come the separation 

(or 'taking apart': Greek 'apostasia') first, and that man of sin be revealed,

the son of perdition; 4who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called

god, or that is worshipped; so that he as a god sits in the temple of God,

showing himself that he be god. 5Remember you not, that, when I was yet

with you, I told you these things6And now you know what withholds that

he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity does already

work: only he who now lets will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And

then shall that wicked one be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with

the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.


We are told:

1.       First event: The Highest Calling (Greek 'anw klesis' Phil 3:14)

 -- This is the Separation  --  the first call of chosen – the first premium  

 -- the call of the prophets and apostles -- the call of the Bride – the first cut
 -- the fishers of the John 21-- the call of the harvesters -- first are resurrected
 those who sleep – then both groups are caught up onto the Good Land (the
 Land promised Abraham, from the Euphrates to the Nile)

2.       Second event: The Coming of the Lord – the Rapture – the Day of

 Christ – the call of the first five virgins – the take of 153 -- the second cut --
 the Lord brings the harvesters with Him – first are resurrected those who
 sleep – then both groups are caught up onto the Good Land.


Please note: The wicked one, who will be revealed after the Separation and

before the Rapture, shall be destroyed with the brightness of the Lord’s Coming.


This coming of the Lord on the Day of Christ will not be the last coming or the

last manifestation, and not yet the one with the sound of the last trumpet. And

then, afterwards, there will be the third and last call of the chosen saints, after the
tribulation, and before the day of wrath, and as soon as the sign of Jonah gets
manifested. The three calls are exclusive for the elect among the saints, not for
the whole Church.   


YBIC  Francisco