Clay Cantrell (26 Sep 2011)
"Inside 1 Thessalonians 4:16, Sudden Destruction in Ecclesiastes 9:12"

Readers -

following the principle of Genesis 1:11
"And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so."

I looked inside this verse:

1 Thessalonians 4:16
"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: ..."

found here in it's word for word form at Richard's Bible Wheel site -

the verse placement number is


the total verse gematria in both TR-Scriv and NA27 versions is:


Doing what I've done in the past, i searched for what I consider a 'target' number in the list. this would be a number that has come up in the past that I considered important to 'mark'.

in this verse that target number is


I'm convinced 1213 = 12.13, just as 911= 9.11

12.13 is the month/day in 2003 that Saddam Huessin was captured in Iraq. I knew something important had happened when I went to sleep on 12.12. I just felt the Lord's presence about it, and had all day. Waking up on 12.13 to a clock radio it was announcing the news of his capture.

in this verse the word having the value of 1213 is Archangel.

the cumulative gematria total from word one through the 1213 word =


according to Richard's data base only one verse in the Bible has that as it's total. that is:

Ecclesiastes 9:12
"For man also knoweth not his time: as the fishes that are taken in an evil net, and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men snared in an evil time, when it falleth suddenly upon them."

found here in it's word for word form:

this seems very accurate to me (!) as Destruction numbers and Rapture/Resurrection numbers seem to have double duty.

also important to note is the presence of the 84 and 416 numbers in that verse!

84 = Enoch hebrew gematria
416 = Jared (Descend) greek gematria

416 is the match to 1 Thess 4:16.


also worth noting is what happens when entering the 395 number into the mix.

395 is the strongest "Resurrection" number I know of. just take my word for it.

from above, using the verse placement base number:

2962 = (395 x 5) + 987.

    987 is the year Enoch was 'taken'.

and, again, using the 5923 number -

5923 = (395 x 9) + 2368 !

    2368 = greek gematria for Jesus (888) Christ (1480)