Alan T (26 Oct 2014)
"RE: Judith ; Pastor Bob's " In Christ" teaching on Salvation is Wrong"


 
Judith and Doves, 
I have been following pastor Bob's teachings and I do agree with most of his Dispensational stance, but as Judith, I believe his teaching on salvation is in error. I too hold to the "Standing" and " State" letter that you provided...thank you. 
I dug up some charts that may help.
http://www.gracebeuntoyou.com/WOT-Chart-Large.png

http://www.enjoythebible.org/timeline.html

http://www.heavendwellers.com/hd_keystone_chart.htm

As Judith showed in her exhaustive presentation, Standing and State are how we reconcile the Apostle Paul's seemingly contradictory passages concerning eternal security of the believer, and warnings against continuing in sin. These charts above also show the transitional nature of the 1st century as Israel is finally set aside and the Apostolic gifts cease. 
The book of acts is the critical key to seeing the transition from Peter to Paul, and the conditions of salvation changing. Also pastor Bob's teaching is that the church of this age of grace began at Pentecost. This is untrue. Careful reading of the book of acts will confirm that those saved at Pentecost were Jews and Proselyte Jews. Also They were to have all things common and sold all just as Jesus Commanded. Paul never admonishes to do this. Also in Acts 5,  2 people die because of lying to the Holy Ghost. This is a continuation and perpetuation of what Jesus commanded, i.e. , the gospel of the Kingdom of heaven. Signs, wonders, angels ministering, miracles, dead raised, etc.  Anyone who teaches that we are to follow ALL of Jesus commands, or non-Pauline epistles, that are not confirmed by Paul's epistles, are applying doctrine that is meant for after the rapture, which is " The Kingdom of heaven" being at hand. Peter had no way of knowing that the Kingdom was not imminent, and yet 2, 000 yrs. later it is still future. 
You will also note that Baptism for the Jews in Acts 2 was done as peter said" Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the REMISSION of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost". 
      Sins can be remitted back to them if they fall away. We cannot fall away, just out of fellowship with The Lord as Judith points out. Paul is saved before he is baptized, and  Cornelius is saved before he is baptized...a proof of the transition from the Jews to "one new man", Jew nor Gentile, male nor female.

Ro.3:24 " Being justified FREELY by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Standing) We have redemption through His blood" Col.1:14

Ro.3:25   "..to be propitiation through faith in His blood, to declare HIS righteousness for the remission of sins that are past.."( state) 
It is Christ's righteousness and Christ's faith, not OURS that justifies us. Phil. 3:9 ; Ro. 5: 18 ; Eph. 3 : 12 ; 
Phil.3:9 " And to be found in Him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith OF Christ, the righteousness which is OF God by faith"

Many thanks to all for your excellent letters, 
Alan T