Carol re Kleck, Clay and fallen angels

Not so fast there Carol

I think you need to again read this letter from Clay, who works with Jonathan

I think a problem here is being too quick to misjudge statements, thereby throwing everything away

These guys have come up with a lot more revelation then folded dollars

There has been some excellent revelation on Obama that also lines up with what others have had

It would be nice to have Clay's email re these issues

If Jonathan said a Hail Mary I am sure it was part of his humor

I am not saying these guys are perfect, ruff around the edges

But so are many of us here

Now as far as fallen angels not able to repent, you might consider Richard Wurmbrand

This is a book from Richard Wurmbrand

He is founder of Voice of the Martyr's

He was tortured severely for Christ for 14 years by Nazi's and Communists in Romania

In his book Prisoner for Christ he speaks of a very strange situation

After enduring severe torture for many years he asked his angel why he was so weak, why couldn't he protect him

He then saw his angel, which shocked him because of what he looked like, not angelic

The Angel told him that he was a fallen angel that had repented.

Imagine that.

Are angles that much different then us?

They obviously have a free will to make decisions, otherwise there would not have been a split

Since the great judgement hasn't happened yet, can they actually repent and break free from Satan?

I don't know, but I don't rule it out, especially after reading the above.

Think about this, did all the people before Christ go to hell?.

If so, why did Jesus descend?

He went to preach to the prisoners

Why would he do that if there was no hope for them?

Some people here think that there are no patriarchs before Christ's time that are in heaven.

Sad.