Eliane B (17 Oct 2012)
"To Gerlinda (Oct 13) - Re: death's sting, resurrection, raptures"

 

In response to http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2012/gerlinda1013-1.htm

and http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2012/gerlinda1016-1.htm

 

Gerlinda (and Doves),

 

I agree with Rowina’s explanation, that the death mentioned in verse 55 of 1 Corinthians 15 refers specifically to the group who will have had their bodies glorified up to that time, that is, the Body of Christ, which will be complete then. Those belonging to that group in particular will never have to fear death’s sting anymore. But you are right that there are going to be deaths on Earth after that event, so the word death in that verse doesn’t seem to refer to any other group. This seems to be a coherent explanation because verse 55 is immediately preceded by the description of the group it’s referring to (the Body of Christ, which will be complete then).

 

I also agree with Marilyn Agee’s view that there is going to be more than one Rapture.  However I don’t think that the first Rapture will be midtrib, but before the Tribulation, and I don’t think that the 7th Week of Daniel has started yet.

 

For me, the chronology seems to be as follows:

 

      I.        1st Rapture (the Bride of Christ, those who are ready)à The first Trumpet, Feast of Pentecost some year.  Christ comes Himself to gather His Saints and meets them in the air. In regards to the date (Pentecost), I don’t mean the date modern Judaism commemorates Pentecost (in the 3rd month, Sivan), but the correct Shavuot date, the 29th of the 4th Hebrew month (Summer, end of the barley and wheat harvest, last days of the 4th Hebrew month, which was later named “Tammuz” after the Babylonian exile). The book of Ruth is an interesting illustration for that and the story occurs at that time. The Feast of Pentecost hasn’t had its final prophetic fulfillment yet.

 

    II.        Rapture of the Two Witnesses à exact middle of the Tribulation. It seems this event only includes those 2W. Yes, I think the ministry of the 2W starts in the first half of the 7th Week and not in the second half. For me, they are Elijah and the apostle John, for several reasons.

 

   III.        2nd Rapture some year (the surviving Tribulation Saints plus the 144K, the completion of the Body of Christ) à The last Trumpet, on a Feast of Trumpets, approx. 6 years after the start of the 7th Week of Daniel.  Immediately after the evacuation of the last believers from Earth (surviving Tribulation Saints) performed by angels (and not by Christ Himself), the Wrath of God is then poured on Earth.

 

Who is left to populate the Millennium? There are going to be many who will be protected at that time. A remnant of the Jews and unbelieving gentiles who were meek. But in the Judgment of the Nations (after Christ’s coming, described in Matthew 25:31-46), unbelieving meek gentiles will be  judged according to their works, according to how they treated the Tribulation Saints and also the Jews, and those gentiles who didn’t take the mark of the Beast and who helped the Tribulation saints and the Jews will be the “sheep” . Those who didn’t help (and those who took the mark and didn’t repent and are still alive at that time) will be the “goats”, and won’t be allowed to populate the Millennium Reign of Christ.

 

I believe that the Tribulation Saints are also part of the Body of Christ, so they can’t experience the Wrath of God, otherwise the Bible would contradict itself. Therefore there must be a final rapture before God pours His Wrath on Earth.

 

I agree that the opening of the 7 Seals deflagrates a severe judgment on Earth, which is allowed by God, but the first 6 seals are not the Wrath of God yet.

 

I think that the parable of the Hidden Treasure (Matthew 13:44-50) might be a picture of different groups of people. The hidden Treasure is the Body of Christ, a group of people for whom He gave all He had to rescue and redeem for Himself. First the Jews had this opportunity but most of them rejected their own Messiah and many gentiles accepted His message and Salvation offered by Him. Then another group of believing Gentiles (typified by the pearl of great value – in Hebrew culture the pearl is not considered kosher) accepted Christ’s gospel and were redeemed by Him. Then comes verses 47-50, which seems to refer to the ones on Earth (Jews and unbelieving gentiles) who happen to be alive at the time of the Second Coming. A part of them are the good fish (who will populate the Millennium Reign) and the other part are the bad fish which are cast away (they don’t participate in the Millennium).

 

In my opinion it’s important to understand that concept of “tagma” (a Greek word that means “order”, “ranks”, turn”) used to describe the phases of the resurrection in 1 Corinthians 15:23. The first “tagma” was Christ’s own resurrection, which is part of the first resurrection. At the time of the final Rapture (on a future Feast of Trumpets), the body of Christ will be made complete and nobody who belongs to His Body will have to fear death’s sting anymore. At that time, all members of the complete Body of Christ will have been changed and the process will be concluded then. I think that the expression “we shall all be changed” doesn’t necessarly mean that we shall all be changed at the exact same time. The process of the transformation of the body will happen “in the twinkling of an eye” for the respective group, but I think that that passage says that at that time the resurrection and glorification process of the final part of the Body of Christ will be complete, so we all will have been changed at that moment in time. I think that there are resurrections and raptures both in the First Trump (first rapture) event and in the Last Trump (final rapture) event.

 

In my view, everything that happened in the Old Testament regarding the First Trump was real but also prophetic of the First Trump that is still to happen in the near future. (just like the Passover in Egypt was real but also a type and shadow of the final Passover in Calvary).

The birth of the Church on Pentecost (Acts 2) was not the final fulfillment of the Feast of Pentecost, because in Leviticus 23:20, the Priest had to wave two loaves of leavened bread lifting them up with his arms, in a gesture similar to the one used (Lev. 23:11) on the Feast of Firsfruits (the day Christ rose from the dead). The waving of the sheaf (lifting it up and waving it) was symbolic of Christ presenting Himself (together with other saints, as in a sheaf of firstfruits) to the Father in Heaven as the Firstfruit of those who slept.

Likewise, the same gesture will also happen on a future Feast of Pentecost. In Acts 2, the Holy Spirit came down from Heaven, nothing went up to Heaven as part of Christ’s harvest (in terms of resurrection/rapture). The waving (lifting up) of the two leavened loaves of bread (probably typifying believing Jews and believing Gentiles) is a very significant detail in the description of the Feast of Pentecost, which I think represents the Rapture of the Bride of Christ.

 

Remember Ruth (a type of the Church, a gentile who fell in love with the Kinsman Redeemer, Boaz) secretly went to the threshing floor where Boaz was resting (reclined on the pile of the grain harvest, which happens to be on Pentecost, in the end of summer), and she was at His feet at a moment when he was merry and celebrating the grain harvest (wheat planted in spring gets ripe in the end of the 4th Hebrew month. This is the Feast of Pentecost, and as Ruth, I think we will be together with our Redeemer on a day that He will be extremely happy and He will take us as His bride, in the end of the barley AND wheat harvest (Ruth 2:23). Then, and only then, will Naomi (a type of Israel) get to know Boaz (a type of Christ) personally, as the story doesn’t narrate any encounter of Naomi and Boaz before his marriage with Ruth. Likewise, Israel will get to know Christ after the Rapture, the veil will be removed from their eyes and many will believe. After the marriage of Boaz an Ruth, notice that their baby Obed (which means “worshipped”) is nursed by Naomi and treated as her own son. I think this typifies the fact that after the marriage of Christ and the Church, a remnant of Israel will worship the true Messiah, Christ, as the Bride will not be on Earth anymore.

 

The story of Ruth is so significant and profound, full of types and shadows, that I even wonder if Orpha was a type or shadow of anything. After much thought, it came to my mind that Orpha might be a type of the Tribulation Saints. She seems to vanish from the narrative in chapter 1 and be totally forgotten, never to be mentioned again. But if we pay attention to verse 9 of chapter 4, we read: “And Boaz said unto the elders, and unto all the people, You are witnesses this day, that I have bought all that was Elimelech's, and all that was Chilion's and Mahlon's, of the hand of Naomi.”

 

This makes me think that Orpha is mentioned again because she was Chilion’s widow and the price of the redemption was extensive to herself (because she “was Chilion’s”) and the texts says “all that was Chilion’s” was purchased by Boaz. Not only the land. (Just a thought).

 

I think that in these times, not knowing exactly when prophetic events will occur, we should always try to do like Ruth was instructed by Naomi to do in Ruth 3:3: “Wash yourself therefore, and anoint yourself, and put your best clothes upon you”.

 

Washing means the washing of the Word of God, the washing of our sins.

Anoint means to be anointed by the Holy Spirit, in prayer and living a holy life.

Put our best clothes upon us means that we should discard our widow’s clothes and wear the “garments of praise”. (mentioned in Isaiah 61:3)

 

Regards,

 

Eliane