Renee M (30 Nov 2013)
"Pineman (22 Nov 2013) "Re: Renee Moses - When Is The Rapture""


 
Dear Pineman and fivedovers,
Thank you for your questions. I sincerely hope you are asking them because you want to understand and not because you want to attack me or tell me I'm wrong because what I say does not line up with your personal understanding of how the prophecies will unfold. It is with that hope, that I will try to answer your questions.

I do not believe the Bible teaches a 7-year tribulation period. Daniel points us to a 7-year period before Christ returns that begins with a "strengthening of a covenant or pledge". This is known as the "70th week of Daniel". There are then 4 numbers given to us by Daniel that we are to count from. Here are the 4 numbers: 1260, 1290, 1335, and "2200 evenings and mornings", or 1100 days. I realize that our modern-day English translation says "2300 evenings and mornings"; however, Jerome, the early church father who translated the Latin Vulgate Bible and had access to the older manuscripts, said it was 2200 evenings and mornings. And going back even further, Josephus, the Jewish historian, also told us that it was 2200 evenings and mornings and he had access to the oldest temple documents of the time. Not only that, but Josephus told us that these 1100 days had been fulfilled during the time of Judas Maccabees in 168-165 BC (and they are about to be fulfilled again)! All 8 copies of the Dead Sea Scrolls have the number torn out, so it seems that the enemy has attempted to hide this number from us because it is the final key to the puzzle of these numbers, as I will try to show you.

The final 7 years began on October 9, 2009, when Mr. Obama was selected as the Nobel Peace Prize winner, strengthening his covenant to the American people and the world to usher in a new era of peace on earth. This was the 7th day of the Feast of Tabernacles, the only time of the year when the Jewish people would cry out, "Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!" They would wave palm branches after re-enacting the Battle of Jericho and look in anticipation for their coming Messiah. Then, Mr. Obama was given the award just a few hours before the start of the 24th day of Kislev. These are the 2 dates mentioned in Haggai 2, regarding the Lord shaking the heavens and the earth and bringing the desired of all nations to Himself, and the glory of the new temple (His body, His people, the third temple) being greater than that of the former temple.

1260 days later, Mr. Obama rode into Jerusalem on a borrowed beast, with children waving flags (the palm branches were the symbol of Israel in Jesus' day, just as the flag is today) and singing and dancing. Then, he went and stood in the holy place, where he did not belong. This was the very spot where the Son of God, the "third temple" that the Lord is building, first made His appearance on this earth. 1290 days from this event brings you to the Feast of Trumpets in 2016. Daniel told us that from the time that the abomination was set up, there would be 1290 days. And Jesus expounds on this and tells us that this event will involve someone standing in the holy place where he does not belong. This is the 1290-day count.

The 1260 and 1335 day counts are the days of Tribulation and of the 2 witnesses that you mention. They were supposed to start on May 1/2, 2013, on the 7th day of Unleavened Bread on God's calendar. This is when the Israelites crossed the Red Sea into their Promised Land and Egypt (representing the world) had Sudden Destruction come on them as the waters crashed down and killed Pharaoh's army. It was when the walls of Jericho fell at the sound of the last trumpet and the people ascended. It may have been when Lot left Sodom. It was when Peter escaped from prison when an angel rescued him. All of these events foreshadow the Rapture taking place on the 7th day of Unleavened Bread. And May 1/2 was also the day when the Catholics crowned the Virgin Mary, representing the mockery of the crowning of the virgin Bride of Christ on this day. It was also when the NWO crowned their New World Trade Center, another mockery and blasphemy before the Lord. The 1260 days end on the Day of Atonement in 2016 and the 1335 days on the first day of Hanukkah in 2016.

But the Lord told us the days would be shortened in order that some flesh might be saved. And He tells us in Rev 10 and Matt 25 and Revelation 10 that the Bridegroom will be delayed. Just before telling the disciples about the days being shortened, He pointed them to Hanukkah when they asked about the sign of His coming.

So, how do we know how long the Great Tribulation will last then? Daniel tells us in chapter 8, when he hears someone asking how long it will last for. The answer given was 2200 evenings and mornings, which is 1100 days.

The Lord has told us exactly how much the tribulation will be shortened down to and it is 1100 days. These 1100 days start on the 25th day of Kislev and end 3 years later on the 7th or 8th day of Hanukkah. This means they will start between Dec 26-29 this year and end on Dec 31, 2016, or Jan 1, 2017. That is 1100 days. Then the sanctuary, or the holy, shall be made right; in other words, then the Bride of Christ shall begin to reign on the earth with King Jesus.

What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. Ecclesiastes 1:9

200 years before Christ died, in 168 or 167 BC, the Jewish people fled into the wilderness/mountains for 3 years starting on the 25th day of Kislev and returned on the 25th day of Kislev 3 years later. These 3 years lasted for 1100 days (Kislev 25 to the 8th day of Hanukkah 3 years later when the Temple was finished being consecrated to the Lord) and foreshadow the coming Great Tribulation that has been shortened to 1100 days as prophesied in the book of Daniel. Judas Maccabees rode into Jerusalem with the people waving palm branches and crying out, "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!" after defeating the evil Antiochus IV's army. This is all foreshadowing the Second Coming of Christ to the earth at the end of the "3 days of darkness", which are 3 years of darkness that are coming to the earth.

When the disciples asked Jesus what the sign of His coming would be, he gave them 5 clues that all pointed right to the Feast of Hanukkah:
1. Abomination set up (Antiochus IV set up an abominable idol in the temple on the 15th of Kislev)
2. Flee to the mountains (the Jews did this on the 25th of Kislev)
3. Woe to the women with young children (the following Sabbath, 1000 innocent Jews were killed by Antiochus IV's army, including women and children).
4. Sabbath (that slaughter took place on the Sabbath)
5. Winter (it was the start of winter)

Right after this, he tells his disciples that the days will be shortened so that some flesh might be saved. And then in Matthew 25, he tells us that the Bridegroom is delayed and uses a story about having oil in our lamps, which is the theme of Hanukkah.

The Jewish calendar is one month ahead of God's calendar right now. The true Hanukkah will start somewhere between Dec 27-29, 2013, and end between January 3-5, 2014. The 1100 days should begin between December 27-29, 2013.

Comet Ison's tail is scheduled to go right through Draco's tail between Dec 26-Jan 2. This points us to Revelation 12 and the tail of the dragon (Draco) casting stars down to the earth and the woman giving birth and then fleeing into the wilderness for 1260 days (which is shortened to 1100 days). I believe this is pointing to Dec 25 - when we celebrate the woman who gave birth to the male child (Christmas) and then after that she is taken to the wilderness to a place prepared for her to be protected by God (this is the Bride of Christ). When they say, "Peace and Safety", then Sudden Destruction comes on them as a woman with child and they will not escape. "Peace on Earth" is the theme of Christmas around the world. Right after the time when they say, "peace", then comes the Sudden Destruction as a woman going into labor. The Jews fled into the wilderness on Kislev 25, which will be between Dec 27-29. This could be the time of the Rapture. Or it could be the following Sabbath, Jan 3/4, 2014.

Here is what I think is going to happen. This is just my opinion based on my own research - it is not a revelation from the Lord. What I have written thus far, was all revelation from the Lord. What I am about to write is simply my own thoughts. Comet Ison reaches its closest point to the earth on Dec 26, just as it enters Draco's tail. I think that a massive X-class flare will come out of the sun heading for the earth on this day. Ison's electrical charge will interfere with the earth's protective shields and our "shields" will be down. The solar flare hits earth between Dec 26-29 and knocks out the electric grid of the US and possibly much of the world. This starts the 3 years of "darkness". The beast's kingdom is plunged into darkness. This starts the 1100 day count. The rapture could take place right at this time. Or it could be a week later, possibly when meteors from Ison's tail start hitting the earth and emitting poisonous gases. I believe this is what happened 666 years ago when 60% of Europe died over a 3-year period just after a comet passed by. Most likely, something hit Europe and started emitting poisonous gases from the comet that caused the Black Plague. Ison already passed through Earth's orbit a few weeks ago and left a trail of debris that the Earth is headed for. So, it really does not matter what happens to Ison at this point, the damage has already been done. But I believe it will stay on its planned course and go into Draco on Dec 26th as scheduled.

To understand more about the 2 witnesses, please read from my website:
http://jesusiscoming2016.webs.com/thetwowitnesses.htm

I just want to say - before you or anyone starts to criticize what I am saying and try to tear it apart because it doesn't line up with your understanding of how prophecy will be fulfilled - that Jesus fulfilled all of the prophecies about His first coming in a way that no one was expecting. Those who were intently studying the prophecies missed it and in the end, were the ones who ended up killing Jesus. Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. He will fulfill the prophecies in a way that most are not expecting it and will reveal the unfolding of these prophecies to the purehearts, who are not necessarily seeking all the answers, but just seeking Him. I do not know all of the things in Scripture or have all of the answers to all of the prophecies about the end-times. I just know that Jesus put me on a journey 13 years ago and started giving me pieces to a puzzle and wanted me to put it together, one piece at a time. I was never completely certain where or when the puzzle ended until now. The puzzle ends between December 26 and January 3. That pretty much sums it up and I don't know what else to say to try to convince you that this is not just something I am making up as I go along.

May God bless all of you and I look forward to meeting many of you very soon! And a very special thank you to John Tng, who did not give up on me and has continued to allow me to send posts and explain what the Lord is showing me. What I am to write is going to be used by those left behind to help show millions of people that what took place was prophesied in Scripture to happen exactly when it happened. This is why I write what I do in such a way that it will help those left behind. Please forgive me if any of you have felt that I have misled you or should not have been so adamant about dates the Lord was pointing me to. I simply did not know if the dates He was showing me were the end of the puzzle or not and was thinking of how to make the biggest impact for those left behind. But I want to assure you that the Lord has confirmed to me many times over in the last month that the puzzle is now finished and this is it.

Blessings,
Renee

http://jesusiscoming2016.webs.com/whenistherapture.htm
 
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2013/reneem1118.htm
 
Dear Renee & Fellow Watchers:
 
According to you webpage the rapture of the church will take place between December 26, 2013 and January 4, 2014. I'm assuming these dates are based on the assumption that the Jewish calendar is celebrating Chanukah a month early and the dates are representative of Chanukah according to the so called corrected calendar. This projected time period is part of a larger period that began on December 10, 2009 and ends Decemeber 25, 2016 that you have designated as the final seven years.
 
The book of Revelation contains a number of judgements called the seals, trumpets & vials. These 21 judgements take place during the 7 year tribulation. I understand that some watchers believe the tribulation begins with the 6th seal. Even so that leaves 15 judgements unaccounted for. So my question is this: According to your eschatology when are these 21 (or 16) judgements going to take place? According to your timeline we are approaching the end of the 4th year of Daniel's 70th week and while I see previews of the shape of things to come I am not seeing any fulfillments.
 
Also, logically this would be a kind of mid trib rapture and you have designated the Jews and the Christians as the 2 witnesses. Can you explain the following verses vis-a-vis the 2 witnesses:  5 And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner. 6 These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.
 
Keep occupying and looking up,
Pineman