Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

(The ten horns of the beast are ten kings, but it says that they have no kingdom as yet.

Is the kingdom of the first part of the tribulation, a much weaker form of the old Roman empire?

Yet it says that they receive power as kings one hour with beast.)

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

  8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

  19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

  20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

(In the form of the kingdom in the first part of the tribulation, there are ten kings without a kingdom.

“Came up”, in lines 8 & 20, then is the antichrist possessed by the prince that comes out of the bottomless pit?   Is that when it all changes?) 

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

  24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

(He subdues three kings, and line 8, above, says that they were plucked up by the roots.

Since there are ten kings at the end, they are not killed, or removed, only subdued.

But, then with the prince from the pit possessing the antichrist, do they then have power as kings, for the rest of the tribulation?)

Revelation 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.}

(These ten kings have one mind, and they turn right around, and give their power they had just received as kings with the beast,

and they give their power and strength to the beast.

They support and follow him with all they have: military might, economy political power, and influence.

They fully back the antichrist in everything that he does or says.

Who are they?)

Daniel 2:40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

  41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters’ clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

  42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

  43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

  44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

(The, “these kings”, of line 44, must be the toes, ten toes, of line 42.

It had gone from kings, under Rome, in the Roman empire, to a broken empire in the last days.

Where the rulers and the ruled attempt to be all one.

Is this like in the UK, with the House of Commons, and where the people elect the prime minister from amongst themselves.

Also, are the various kingdoms or nations of the remains of the Roman empire, not a single, cohesive empire,

but a fragile coalition of nations, not with kings leading them, but people elected by them, from themselves?

Are these ten kings from this final, weakened form of the Roman empire, which is probably out of both the eastern and western parts?

They initially are not powerful as kings, but when the antichrist is possessed, are these ten then possessed by their celestial counterparts?

The dragon has ten horns, celestial, and the beast has ten horns, earthly, but the crowns are on the ten earthly kings.

Is that how they are given power as kings, possessed by their ten fallen celestial counterparts, that were cast out with the dragon?)

Revelation 17:14a These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings:

(It says that these ten kings shall make war with the Lamb.

It doesn’t say simply that they make war, or that they make war with Israel, but it says that they make war with the Lamb.

They know who they really are at war with, whose enemy they really are.

It doesn’t say that they shall make war with Jesus, or make war with the Messiah, but specifically with the Lamb.

They know who the Lamb is, and that he is getting ready to come back to earth.

Especially if these ten kings are possessed with their fallen celestial counterparts, which had been in heaven, until they were cast out with Satan.

They had been in heaven and saw the Lamb being worshipped and opening the seals.

Also, they plan to make war with a Lamb that had been killed, by his own people and the Romans, on a cross.

No doubt they consider that since those were able to kill him then, that they, with their powerful militaries, will be able to kill him again, now.

But it says that the same Lamb, that they plan to kill again, will overcome them, and the Lamb will actually defeat and kill them instead.

Then it explains it, because the Lamb is actually Lord of lords and King of kings.

He has total power and authority over them, both their celestial and terrestrial power.

They may have thought that they would simply face a Lamb, but instead, they will be attacked by the Lion of the tribe of Judah!)