Chance (9 May 2021)
"Pentecost Rapture Date(s) May or July 2021?"


 
Hello John and Doves,
 
The youtube channel The Return of the King has an extensive number of dates, calculations, information for 'working out' a possible Rapture date.  The youtube title is:  "Rapture 2021:  Final Countdown to Pentecost!  Convergence!'  May 3, 2021
(478) Rapture 2021: Final Countdown to Pentecost! Convergence! - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y37NGVFtgyE&t=667s

The date on his chart for the Rapture is Pentecost, on the Torah calendar - May 17-18th.  Lots of amazing calculations, consideration of the blood moons, the Revelation 12 sign, solar and lunar eclipse information, etc.
 
Probably the most in depth study I have seen lately.
 
He talks about the "Rapture Sign" on May 10-11 being a 7 days (Noah) warning to the Rapture Pentecost May 17 - 18.
 
It all looks really good.
 
However, I have a problem with the way Pentecost is counted out.  Many letters have been written about this over the years to Doves.  I lean towards, 49 days plus 50 days....
 
I wonder about the phrase "and when Pentecost was fully come"...is that referring to adding on the second 50 day count??  Also, there is no NEW wine in May or early June for the people in the Upper Room to be drunk on.  "The wine is but new", means 'no time to ferment, but the grapes have been picked and put in wine containers'.  The grape harvest in Israel isn't until late June, July, August.  So the reference to 'new wine' makes no sense if Pentecost is in May or early June.  I doubt Peter was confused! 
 
Was Peter's comment on Pentecost about 'new wine' a hint to the timing of true Pentecost?
 
Luis Vega addresses this problem in his recent letter, "Equinox Calendar - Possible Rapture Zone Re-Calibrations" 25 Apr 2021 
EQUINOX CALENDAR - Possible Rapture Zone Re-Calibrations
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2021/luisv425-2.htm
 
The ancient Christian sect, the Essenes, who have been attributed with writing the Dead Sea Scrolls, celebrated The Festival of the First Fruits of New Wine on the third day of the fifth month - 3 Av.  They used a solar calendar and considered the Pharisee calendar of using the moons wrong.
 
In the Temple Scroll of the Dead Sea Scroll: "You shall count seven weeks from the day when you bring the new grain-offering to YHW, the bread of firstfruits.  Seven full Sabbaths shall elapse until you have counted fifty days to the morrow of the seventh Sabbath.  You shall bring new wine for a drink-offering..." The Festival of the First Fruits of New Wine and Pentecost
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2020/chance621-6.htm
 
"The importance of grapes and olives is illustrated by the fact that the Essenes had wine and oil firstfuirts festivals similar to the biblical firstfruits offering for grain.  These festivals also indicate the relative timeline of these crops.  The new wine festival came 50 days or 7 weeks AFTER Pentecost (the traditional count).  Until new wine was offered, no one could drink any of the new juice (Temple Scroll, columns 19-21)  Harvest Seasons of Ancient Israel | GCI Archive
 
Sure reads like we count 7 full Sabbaths and then count 50 days after the seventh Sabbath.  
 
This reads very much like the verses in Leviticus and Deuteronomy that are about The Feast of Weeks/Pentecost/Shavuot.  The Festival of the First Fruits of New Wine is most likely Pentecost!
 
So if we count 50 days after Pentecost...the third day of the 5th month on the Toral calendar is July 13/14.
On the chabad calendar it is July 11/12.  And then this might change with sighting of the new moon.
 
Grapes are the first major crop to ripen after the 'traditional date' of Pentecost...putting this in later June, July, August, September. 
Harvest Seasons of Ancient Israel | GCI Archive
The Festival of the First Fruits of New Wine - is THIS a day of "each in his own order"? Christ the firstfruits of them that sleep,  "But each in his own order:  Christ the firstfruits: then at His coming, those who belong to Him."  I Corinthians 15:23  Paul wrote this.  Paul was "schooled in the Scriptures" - he was 'intimately aware of the tiniest details of the Jewish calendar.  When he speaks of Christ as the "firstfruits" in an order of events, then the NEXT "firstfruits" would be the date of the following resurrection - this would be the Rapture.  It's possible Paul was suggesting the Rapture would take place on a future Pentecost.
 
The Feast of Weeks was not given a specific date on the calendar...it was found by counting days!  No other High Holy Day is a count of days.
 
We still have several high watch possible Rapture days coming up in May - the dates of Ascension Day - looks like now through May 13 (Gregorian Calendar); then , Shavuot/Pentecost on the chabad calendar May 17/18;  Pentecost Sunday (Gregorian calendar) is May 23;  total lunar eclipse May 26.  I've seen some recent youtubes about May 20.
 
And since we don't know which calendar is 'correct....I'd say, just keep looking up!  Signs around us are fulfilling Bible prophecy for those birth pains!
 
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem!
 
Maranatha!
 
Chance