Doves,
It is said that scripture reveals the meaning of other scripture or scripture authenticates scripture. If one looks for a redundant passage of scripture to back up or clarify the meaning of another passage of scripture....... that reinforcing scripture is there if we search. And such is the case I believe when one combines Revelation 12 with Isaiah 66.
Many posts and videos to the Doves site in recent months have focused on the great sign that is to appear this September indicating a birth with much labor pain as per verses 1 and 2. But another sign or second sign in verses 3 threw 5 also appears in Revelation 12 indicating a second birth, the birth of a manchild. Who then are the two “birthee's” of these two events accompanied by two different signs?
First it appears that the woman involved is the originator of both offspring in these births. And recent research indicates that the term “manchild” is not Jesus but Jesus's offspring, Jesus's body or the body of Christ as is the gentile church.
When I read Isaiah 66:7 and onward it (to me) clears up all the confusion that was created in Revelation 12. Here it explains that this “manchild” which appears to be the gentile church is born before the woman is in labor and and with no labor pains. This stands in stark contrast to the September 23rd birth which depicted the woman crying out with much labor pain.
So Isaiah 66 says that before she was in labor in September, sometime prior to that date she also gave birth........ gave birth to the “manchild” or the gentile church. Isaiah 66:7 states it this way.....”Before she was in labor, she gave birth; Before her pain came, She delivered a manchild”.
Now verse 8 states...Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things?
Notice the word things...plural.
For then God states both of these things, these two events in the remainder of the same verse where He says......”Shall the earth be made to give birth in one day? (that being, the no labor pain birth of the church prior to September)
Or shall a nation be born at once? For as soon as Zion was in labor, She gave birth to her children. (this being, the great labor pain birth in September where the “whole Jewish nation” is re-birthed as per Ezekiel 37) Note that Christ's church is not a nation but the nation of Israel and it's peoples are....past, present and future. So God was describing the two different factions that would be birthed. Birthed at different times, one with labor and one without. One as a nation and one as a group......the “manchild” or the body of Christ or Christ's offspring.....the church.
And I also see the remaining verses of Isaiah 66 agreeing with Zechariah 14 and Ezekiel 38 and 39 and many other passages of scripture to the events happening after Israel is attacked. They speak to the safety of the huge valley God creates for the Jews when they are attacked as a place of refuge and the verses also speak to wrath that God will inflict on His and Israel's enemies after Israel is attacked.
Remember also what Nathan the Jewish boy prophesied about God stepping on the Mount of Olives and creating this valley of refuge for the remnant of those who survive the attack by Gog and his forces.......seemingly agreeing with Zechariah 14.
So, when before September would be the no labor pain birth of the church or the rapture / resurrection of this manchild, this offspring of Jesus? As I have stated in several prior posts it appears from Isaiah 18 and the Song of Solomon that it is connected to grapes.......when the green grape is in the flower or the tender grapes give off a good smell. Does this coincide with the Pentecost season in June? I believe it does. If Jesus “seeded” the gentile church on Pentecost......doesn't it seem logical that He may harvest what those seeds have produced during the same feast period and take the crop away for safe keeping and protection...... before the coming period of wrath and destruction?
I look for a no labor pain departure of the body of Christ, the church, this spring when the grapes are “just so” and I look for the resurrection of hundreds of millions of Jews from the whole house of Israel (Jacob) to happen in the September 23rd time frame accompanied by much labor pain.....as in Israel being under attack.
As I mentioned last week in my posts it appears that the rapture day or the days just prior will be a period of total darkness all over the earth. A reference at the opening of the sixth seal states that the sun will be black as sackcloth of hair. Then Jesus bursts onto the world stage as The Light of the World and The Sun of Righteousness to illuminate the planet and also to “gather up” His church.
During this past week I viewed several YouTube videos that maybe speak to the validity of the Planet X system. This system appears to be knocking on earth's door so to speak. It appears that multiple objects are being seen both at sunrise and sunset accompanying the sun and that it is just a matter of time before one of these objects gets between the earth and the sun preventing the sun's light from reaching earth. Is this what causes the sun to appear black as sackcloth of hair just before Jesus comes to get us?????????? Food for thought and a seemingly good explanation.
If any of you have been following the chem trails you will have noticed that they have been literally painting the western sky in the late afternoon. Is this to block our view of the other celestial object or objects that are being witnessed at sunset? I am thinking yes.
When one ponders on the amount of resources that are being used to spray these chemicals in the sky worldwide on a daily basis.....the aircraft, the jet fuel, the chemicals, the staff and the hundreds of billions of dollars......it's mind blowing to me. Only the Luciferian elite that control this planet under the Rothschild pyramid could maintain and afford this massive demonic endeavor. I truly believed that once Trump took over, the spraying would cease over America. I was sadly mistaken and the fact that it hasn't speaks volumes to me that Trump has also somehow been compromised.
Enough for today....
Blessings Doves..........John B