Also;(please note for those who are not familiar with "Exegesis" it is the method of determining the intended "meaning" of words/sentences "after" they have been translated from the original text.
From Young's Literal Translation;1st Thess. 5:3"for when they may say, peace and surety, then sudden destruction doth stand by them, as the travail [doth] her who is with child, and they shall not escape"
This might be the most accurate as Young attempts to translate from the Greek the most literal (actual) meaning. Where as other versions (translations) try to make more sense of it, and thereby make "assumptions" that can be misleading......notice Young's exegesis "may say" this fits perfectly the aspect of negotiation, as in "talks". So there is no need for an actual "Declaration" of peace/safety for this scripture to be fulfilled. It could be taken to mean this sudden destruction happens "while" they are "saying" or "talking" or more accurately "during negotiations".
I am convinced based on so many different brethren having visions and words from the Lord going back at least a year, Where a nuclear war begins at the time of the rapture. "Missiles come down, we go up" kind of visions. Plus the way this prophecy reads, seems to connect it as well to something big and sudden. Some see missiles and fireballs together...
If you've been watching every aspect...you can see we simply can't be here much longer....or "sudden" won't mean much... And on that note, how long can "business as usual" re. days of Noah...be maintained...The Lord is holding the world together now with duct tape and bailing wire...Shan Cosner MayDay!