Jim,
Great post, thanks for sharing. Here is an excerpt from a book by Jacob Lorber written in the mid 1800's. It gives a great definition of (flesh and blood) and (bread and wine).
41. EXPLANATION OF THE LORD ABOUT ‘EATING HIS
FLESH AND DRINKING HIS BLOOD’
NOW the disciples said: “Lord and Master, this lesson that
You gave us can be well understood, but once in
Capernaum where so many people from all regions
around Jerusalem followed You and when You gave a similar
instruction about eating Your flesh and drinking Your blood, it
was clearly a hard teaching, namely for those people who did not
understand Your simple, clear word as it should be understood
according to its true meaning, and that is why many disciples of
that time left You. We ourselves did not understand it at first, but
the innkeeper, who has never been a disciple of You, gave us its
interpretation. And if we now compare that teaching with this one,
it means the same as what You have now very understandably and
very clearly explained to us. Are we right or not?”
[2] I said: “Indeed, because bread and flesh are one and the same,
as well as wine and blood, and whoever will in My word eat the
bread of the Heavens and will drink the wine of life by acting
according to that word, thus by doing the works of the true, most
unselfish love for God and his fellowman, will also eat My flesh
and drink My blood, for as the physical bread that is eaten by men
is changed in man into flesh and the wine that is drank changed
into blood, so will also in the soul of man the bread of My word
be changed into flesh and the wine of the active love be changed
into blood.
[3] But when I say: ‘Whoever will eat My flesh’, then by that is also indicated that he has not only taken My word into his memory
and into his brains, but at the same time also into his heart, which
is – as I already said – the stomach of the soul, and he also did the
same with the wine of the active love, which is by that no more
wine but already the blood of life, because the memory and the
reason of man are in relation to the heart, just like the mouth is in
relation to the physical stomach. As long as the physical bread is
still between the teeth in the mouth it is still no flesh but bread, but
when it is chewed and comes into the stomach and is there mixed
with the stomach juices, then it is, what concerns its fine feeding
particles, already flesh, because it corresponds to the flesh. So also
with the wine or with water, which certainly contains also wine
substances, because without water, which is carried by the Earth to
feed all plants and animals, the grapevine would die. As long as
the wine is kept into the mouth it will not change into blood.
However, in the stomach it very soon will be changed into it.
[4] So whoever hears My word and keeps it into his memory,
keeps the bread in the mouth of the soul. When he seriously begins
to think about it with his reason, he chews the bread with the teeth
of the soul, because the reason is for the soul what the teeth in the
mouth are for the physical man.
[5] When My bread, thus My teaching, is chewed by the reason, or
has been understood and accepted as the full truth, it also has to be
accepted in the heart by the love for the truth, and by the firm will
it has to be changed into deeds. When this happens, then the word
is changed into flesh and by the serious decisive will into blood of
the soul, which is My Spirit in him, without which the soul would
be as dead as a body without blood.
[6] The serious decisive will corresponds to a good digestive
capability of the physical stomach by which the whole body is kept
healthy and strong. When the digestive power of the stomach is
weak, then the whole body is already sick and weak and will even
become sick from the best and purest food.
[7] It is the same for the soul in whose heart the will to transform
the teaching into deeds has become weakened. He does not achieve the full, healthy, spiritual power, is divided, falls easily
into all kinds of doubts and objections, and tastes one time this and
then again another kind of food to see if perhaps that one may have
a better and more strengthening effect. But with that the soul, who
once has become somewhat sick, is still not completely helped.
‘Yes’, you ask yourselves, ‘can a sick soul then not be helped at
all?’ O yes, I say. But how?”
42. THE MEANING OF ACTING
ACCORDING TO GOD’S WORD
LISTEN, when someone has a weak stomach, he once takes a
drink of herbs that is well known to you, by which the
badly digested foods are moved away from the stomach
and the intestines along the well-known natural way. Those badly
digested foods can be compared with the objections that are
absorbed in the soul, namely if he should believe this or that
completely and should act accordingly.
[2] Once the physical weak stomach is cleansed, then what has to
be done to make it strong again and that it should remain strong?
Such a person should become really active, and at the same time
take good exercise in the fresh, pure air. By that, the stomach will
in the first place regain its full and healthy strength. Look, this
is what the soul should do also. He must cleanse his heart of
all false doctrines, wrong notions and ideas. Then he should
absorb the truth as I am teaching you, with love, willfully and in
full faith, and should be busy and active with it, then by that
he will soon become much stronger and also become fully and
permanently healthy.
[3] Therefore, none of you should only be listeners, but should also
seriously and zealously act according to My word. Then in a very
short time all objections and doubts will have disappeared from
his soul.
[4] The physical stomach of the body, being in a healthy, strong
condition, can take up all kinds of clean and if necessary also unclean food into itself without suffering damage, because through
its activity it removes all that is unclean from itself or transforms
it into something clean. And this is also what the strong and
completely healthy stomach of the soul does. And thus for the pure
everything is pure. And even the most impure spiritual stench of
pestilence of Hell cannot cause any damage to him.
[5] When you will completely possess My Kingdom in yourselves,
you will be able to walk over snakes and scorpions and drink
poison from Hell without causing you the least of damage.
[6] If you all have well understood this now and have grasped it,
you will now also perceive according to the full living truth what I
wanted you to understand in Capernaum with ‘eating My flesh’
and ‘drinking My blood’, and from now on you surely will not call
it a hard teaching anymore.
[7] Already in the visible natural world the deeper causes of things
and of many phenomena are so difficult to explain for the pure
human reason in such a way that it can remain free from all
possible errors that feeds the bad superstition, and that it can in
this way walk the way of the truth. How much more difficult will
the pure reason of the brains understand the heavenly spiritual
things, powers, actions and phenomena which are invisible for the
physical eye of man and to make it perceptible for the soul.
[8] Therefore I always say to you: you will only be initiated in all
wisdom related to the spiritual, heavenly life’s conditions and its
power and might when you will be completely newly born in My
Spirit in the manner that I have extensively and clearly shown to
you. And ask yourself now if you also have completely understood
the correct, full truth of all that.”
Mike M.