Kevin Heckle (24 May 2012)
"Liz Tracy - RE: Desire of Women - Clarification"



Regarding the Hermeneutics law of first mention as a guideline:


1.    The first mention of the word (from Daniel 11:37) for “desire” (chemdah) is as an adjective is in Genesis 27:15 interpreted by the KJV as “goodly” to describe clothing. 

2.    The first use of the word (from Dan 11:37) “desire” (chemdah) as a noun is in 1 Samuel 9:20, an object of Israel’s desire. The word is used as a noun in Daniel 11:37 according to Gesenius’s Lexicon (quoted below in bold face). 

3.    The phrase you cited in Genesis 3:16 does not contain the word “chemdah” but rather the word “teshuwqah”. 


The words in Genesis 3 and Daniel 11 for “desire” are the two different words chemdah and teshuwqah


1.    Teshuwqah is the name for the emotion (Genesis 3)

2.    Chemdah is the name for the object of that emotion.  (Daniel 11)


Do you see the difference?  (Proofs below)


Daniel 11:37 “desire” interpreted:


Strong’s H2532 – Desire or Chemdah  - noun or adjective – desire(the object), that which is desirable


From Gesenius’ Lexicon -  ““(2) that which is desired, delight. 1 Sam. 9:20; Dan 11:37 “the delight of women;” this must be understood, as the context shows it must, of some idol, especially worshipped by the Syrian women, such as Astarte or Anaitis.””



Gen. 3:16 “desire” interpreted:


Strong’s H8669 – Desire or Teshuwqah - noun  - desire, longing, craving

a)      Of man for woman

b)      Of woman for man

c)       Of beast to devour



As for the first phrase in Daniel 11:37:


Dan 11:37 KJV - [37] Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

The first occurrence of the phraseology of God of (his) fathers is in Genesis 31, the same place that describes Rachel stealing her father’s false god/idols and hiding them.


The context:  “for he shall regard himself above ALL.  What is the ALL in this context? “Nor regard ANY god”.  “Nor” is a conjunction that connects the two phrases together.  What are the two phrases? “God of his father’s” and “desire of women”.  In context then, what is the “desire of women”?  It obviously is the objects of the two connected phrases, which are “God” and “desire” (both naming the noun and clarified by “NOR regard ANY GOD”).


Whoever the AC may be, Daniel 11:37 doesn’t declare him a homosexual or as disregarding heterosexuality, but rather an atheistic narcissist.           


Again, it’s not just my layman opinion but the interpretation of a real theological master Wilhelm Gesenius (Gesenius’ Lexicon), the man who ESTABLISHED the strictly scientific and comparative method of Biblical exegesis.


In Christ,


Kevin H