Timing of the Gog and Magog
war
= 100 % sure after the rapture
-
Proving it with the Holy Bible as the only absolute truth
(Three key verses in the Gog and Magog
text itself)
It
is much much later on God's endtime
clock than
many sleeping christians are supposing it
- Conclusion II:
The
rapture is at the door and can
take place any
second
- Conclusion III:
There
will be again Pentecostal in Jerusalem and
there will be again powerful worldwide evangelism
like in the Acts
Dear brethren of Five
Doves
This is Daniel from Switzerland. My mother tongue
is Swiss German but my
English
is quite Ok and so I hope You understand
very well the following
message
which I suppose to be a very importan message as well to be
the very good news that
Jesus will come back
for His bride very soon !!!
It was in 1977 that I
came to the Lord at the age of eighteen
years and it was at that time 1979 ff.
and when the Russian
red army invaded Afghanistan with a
surprising military attack at christmas
1979 that many pastors and churches were speaking a lot
about the coming Gog and Magog war and
that the invasion of Afghanistan is
now just the
first step in later invading as well
Iran as the neighbour country of
Afghanistan and then together with Iran to attack Israel.
But during the 80ies and
as nothing specific happened into this
direction more and more silence among
most of the
christians and later and especially
1989 ff. and with the mighty
deliverance of the Iron Curtain, cold
war and communism
in Eastern Europe the christians here
even started to fall asleep more and
more and
finally to forget about the Lord's return and
changed their mind that the Gog and
Magog war followed by the Lord's return
would not be very
soon, but "a little bit later than we
first expected it in 1979..." The same
happened also to me and it was especially in april 2010 and
with the volcano eruption and the ashes
in Iceland/Northern Europe (= almost all
commercial flights in Europe cancelled
and silent "ghost-airports" allover
Europe within two days) that the
Lord started to wake me up again concerning the
imminent rapture and it
was especially in december
2011 that the Lord after more than thirty years (1979 ff.)
started also to speak to me
about the Gog and Magog war and this was
a very great surprise to me.
This text in Ezekiel
37 ff. is very well
known and there is also much discussion
and several opinions in the "endtime literature" if this war is
before/during/at the end of the Great
Tribulation and as far as I know all the
authors in the "endtime-literature"
write more or less that it is not
possible to give a definitive and clear
answer to this question.
There is first of all
the question in the "endtime-literature"
if this Gog and Magog war is
before/during/at the end of the Great Tribulation but there
is very few in the "endtime-literature"
about another question if the rapture
is before/during/at the end
of the Gog and Magog war.
And this was
really a great and very positive
surprise from the Lord for me that after
more than thirty years (Russian occupation of Afghanistan in
1979) of silence the Lord started to
speak again to me about the Gog and
Magog war during
december 2011/winter 2012, I
red the text a lot and prayed about
it during the
last winter and I
have now the very deep conviction
and can show the very
true and biblical answer if the
rapture will take place
befofe/during/at the end of the Gog
and Magog war
And the answer is that the
Gog and Magog war can only be after the
rapture and also that today it
is much much
later on God's endtime clock than too many
sleeping christians are supposing it
!!!
And there will not only be the Gog and Magog war but there
will also be
again Pentecostal again in Jerusalem (Ezekiel
39,29) !!!
And I can prove this
truth with three Bible verses in the Ezekiel
text itself and then later on
underline and confirm
this biblical truth 1. with
true and interesting
realities in the invisible world and in the
history of a nation
and 2. with the inner
testimony of the two groups (= the sleeping ones
and the bride souls) of christians today.
There was also the discussion
and the letters to Five Doves from brother B.
Warner on 17.04.2012 where
he wrote "...therefore the first Gog
and Magog war is the benchmark for the
timing of our rapture. We will be raptured immediately after the
shortened tribulation of these days of the Gog
and Magog war in Israel..." (see letter to Five Doves 17.04.2012 B.
Warner). Of course this statement is completely
wrong and it is first of all against the words of Jesus Christ
himself who told us very clearly in the Holy
Bible "Watch and pray always
because You do not know when the Son of Man
returns" (see also later in chapter III.2).
If this statement 17.04. of
brother B. Warner was is then one does not
need to watch and pray any longer but one waits now first for the start
of the Gog and Magog war and as soon as this war
begins then to wake up and to expect the rapture
to take place within a very short time frame
concerning to the probably very short duration (see chapter V) of the Gog and Magog
war....
And those are indeed very
good news that it is possible
with the Holy Bible to prove that
the rapture can only be before the Gog and Magog
war and the fact that the Lord
after more than thirty years (1979 - 2011) now
exactly in december 2011 ff started to speak again to me about that
war can very well also mean
that it is indeed much much later on
God's endtime
clock than many sleeping christians are supposing
it and that Jesus
comes back for His bride very
soon.
If
anything in the following should be against the
absolute truth of the Holy Bible I will be the
first one to apologize and to humble before the
Lord for it and so I am very thankful when You
read carefully the following and check it with the Holy Bible and I am very
interested for Your replies and reactions to the
Five Doves Forum:
I. The
three key verses in the Holy Bible to prove
the timing of the rapture before/during/at the end of the
Gog and Magog war:
- Ezekiel 38,23 B
- Ezekiel 39,29
- Ezekiel 39,28
IIa. The faithfulness of the Lord or the
disobedience to the Lord and to His Holy Spirit and the immediate
consequences for the history and for the development of a nation
(examples: USA, Switzerland, Russia, France, Germany)
IIb. USA and
Russia a)
before
b) after the rapture
III.
Contradictions in each of the three possible
variants and remaining only one possibility left = rapture
before the Gog and Magog war
IV.
Personal inner testimony of other christians
(two groups)
V
Where is the antichrist during the Gog and
Magog war and how long will be the duration of this war ?
(remember league of
nations/WW I and UNO/WW II)
_________________________________________________________________________________
I. The
three key verses in the Holy Bible to prove
the timing of the rapture before/during/at the end of the Gog
and Magog war
______________________________________________________________________________
Those are the three verses in
the Gog and Magog text itself (afterwards
followed by the logical interpretation) which prove for 100% sure that the
rapture can only be before the Gog and Magog
war:
1. Ezekiel 38,23 B
"And I will be known in the eyes of many
nations and
they shall know that I am the Lord"
2. Ezekiel 39,29
"Then shall they know that I am the Lord
their God..
for I have poured out my spirit
upon the house of
Israel saith the Lord God"
3. Ezekiel 39,28
"But I have gathered them
unto their own land and
have left none of them anymore
there"
There are very
important truths in those three verses
and with them it is very easy to
prove that the Gog and Magog war can only be
after the rapture and most
probably the Gog and Magog war is
much much nearer than many sleeping
christians suppose it !!!
I.1 Biblical
truth I = Pouring out the
Spirit only upon Israel
The two verses 38,23 and 39,29
have exactly the very same words for the
Gentiles/38,23 B and for the Jews/39,29 ("They shall know that I
am the Lord") but only for
the Jews the Holy Bible promises also "I
have poured out my spirit upon the house of
Israel" and to the Gentiles
the Bible says "...they shall know that I am
the Lord" and the very
same words to the Jews but the Bible adds "they
shall know that I am the Lord their God
(Ezekiel 39,29).
Today is the time before the
rapture and today and until to the day of the
rapture the pouring out of the Holy Spirit is taking place allover
the world among the Gentiles since the day of
Pentecost but now there is nothing at all written in the whole Gog and
Magog text about pouring out the Holy Spirit
over the Gentiles but only upon the house of Israel and such a
combination that at the very
same time (= time of the victory of Israel/end
of Gog and Magog war) the Gentiles
(Ezekiel 38,23 B) shall know that I am the
Lord but the Jews
shall know that I am the Lord their God
(Ezekiel 39,29) and then only
for the Jews promised "I have
poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel" (Ezekiel
39,29) is only possible if
the rapture at that moment took place already
and so the rapture cannot be at
the end of the Gog and Magog war and
neither after the Gog and Magog war.
I.2a Biblical
truth II = Not all the Jews
already in Israel
Here in Switzerland (and
probably in the USA it is exactly the
same) I know many christians who fully
agree with all the
prophetic headlines and endtime doctrines like
rapture, antichrist, great tribulation, Gog
and Magog war but most of
those people changed their mind during the
last ten or twenty years and today those
christians explain more or less "...well this all takes a little
bit longer than we originally expected and
this all takes probably another twenty or fifty or even more than fifty years
until the forfillment of those prophetic
endtime events and of course we are in the final years anf of course the Lord
will return some day but not just today or
tomorrow but "a little bit later" and so for the next months or few years I expect
no greater prophetic event to happen and
it will just continue as usual...."
And one of their main
arguments is the worldwide jewish population
and the geographic south of Israel/Sinai
desert. There are about
fourteen million jews in the whole world and
since 1948 only about six millions of them
have already returned
to their home land Israel and that's why those
christians say that Israel which was more or
less like a desert in
1948 and now since 1948ff. is becoming more
and more fertile and green still has much
space in the south/desert of Sinai for the remaining worldwide
eight million jews and that this will now take
another twenty or fifty or even more than
fifty years to completely repopulate Israel
with all the worldwide fourteen million Jews.
But this verse in Ezekiel
39,28 proves exactly the opposite:
There are several verses in
the Bible and in the prophetic books (mainly
in Isaiah, Sachariah, Jeremiah and Amos) which prophecy that the Jews in the
final days will be regathered and return to
their home land Israel.
But among those several
prophetic passages in the Old Testament I only
found this one verse in Ezekiel
39,28 with
this very important additional
statement "....left none of them any
more there" !!!
And this passage in Ezekiel
39,28 makes it very clear
that the Gog and Magog war
will take place before all the Jews are
regathered in Israel and
those christians mentioned above ("...for the
next months or years we expect nothing main prophetic event to
happen and it will just continue as usual...")
are wrong with their idea that the Lord will return "a little bit later".
And the voices of those
sleeping christians are also in complete
contradiction to the voice of the Lord
Jesus Christ Himself
who declared "They eat, they
drink, they marry....and then unexpectedly
the Son of Man returns".
Those voices of the sleeping
christians I hear them again and again and I
am sure You hear them too but they are completely wrong if one considers Ezekiel
39,28 and the Gog
and Magog war is much nearer than many
expect it and indeed it
is much much later on God's endtime clock
than too many sleeping christians are
supposing it !!!
I. 2b
Why many Jews finally change their mind
and return to Israel ?
The
fact that today about eight of the estimated
worldwide fourteen million Jews still live
outside of Israel brings automatically the question why the
Jews finally change their mind because
concerning to Ezekiel 39,28 "Have
left
none of them there anymore"
all Jews will return back to their home land
Israel but there is a very simple answer to this question and I
do not find any other reasonable answer in
thinking about it and
The simple answer
= the rapture !!!!!!!
The whole remaining time from
today until to the rapture there is still the
ongoing pouring out and presence of the Holy
Spirit in the whole world among the gentile
nations and of course this presence of
the Holy Spirit is the main reason that even today there is still a
certain degree of good order and economical
and political stability and the classical
system with the several nations allover the
world instead of the One World Government and
it is the Holy Spirit Himself Who is still the
very strong brake in the invisible world and
Him trying to brake the worldwide evil as long
as possible.
But this will immediately
change once the rapture took place and the consequences of the rapture for
economy, political stability, criminality,
peace in the world, pollution and much more
will be enormous and only to the negative and destructive direction within very
short time.
And exactly those consequences
of the rapture will the remaining Jews bring
to the point to return to their home land
Israel: For example why should a successfull
jewish businessman leave the USA or Europe and
transfer to Israel when he still makes a lot
of good business among the Gentiles ? And why
should a young jewish husband and father with
a stable job and comfortable flat leave his
stable situation among the gentiles and move
to Israel when he knows
that it would be very difficult to have the
same stable circumstances in Israel as he has
them already now living with his family in a
gentile nation ?
And so the verse in Ezekiel
39,28 and the fact that all
the worldwide remaining jews finally change
their mind and return
to their homeland Israel without even one
exception ("...left none of them
there anymore") and the
fact of the worldwide immediate rapture
is the only reasonable explanation why all the
remaining jews change their mind and is another very strong argument that
the rapture can only be before the
Gog and Magog war.
And there is even more to say
about it if one considers the realities in the
invisible world and the consequences for the
development of a country like it can be seen
in many examples in the history. Especially the
spiritual situation of Russia and USA a)
before b) after the rapture
show into the very same direction and
underline completely
that the Gog and Magog war can
only be after the rapture:
IIa The
faithfulness of the Lord or the disobedience
to the
Lord and to His Holy Spirit and the
immediate
consequences
for the history and for the development of
a country (examples: USA, Switzerland, Russia, France,
Germany)
__________________________________________________
USA
(Example: Anno Domini 1776 and 250
years of peace)
The history of the USA 1776 ff.
is completely different of the history of Europe
which is quite "unpeaceful" (and with Switzerland as the main and very
interesting exception - see later).
As far as I know as a
non-american citizen it happened that several
british
immigrants founded the USA in
the year of the Lord/Anno Domini 1776
and an american pasto explained
to me once that they were God fearing
christians and they called
for the help of God Almighty when they founded
the nation and that He Himself
might help them not to repeat the same
mistakes as they happened again and again in the
history of Europe and
that
they declared that they wanted to found a nation in the name
of the
Lord
and God Almighty and that this new nation with the help
of God Almighty
should be free and independant of the e British Empire
and that this
happened
in 1776 and that until today there is the famous
independance
hall
in Philadelphia.
And today and almost 250 years
later there is the fact that the USA is number
one in the world and that until today there was never any war inside of the
country except of the Civil War in the 19th
century.
And within the last 250 years
since the foundation of the nation in the name
of God Almighty the USA became the most powerful
country of the world not only concerning
military and economical power but surely also
the one country with the highest percentage of
apostles, evangelists and real soldiers for the
kingdom of the Lord and probably also the one
country with the highest percentage of financial
support for the kingdom of the Lord and surely
the one country with the strongest support for
Israel and this all as a result 1. of the still
very many faithful christians in the USA
and 2. of the call in 1776 for the help of the
Almighty and the Lord always did
confirm His very great faithfulness 177g ff.
until today.
And how developed Europe and
especially the "great" (see later Russia,
France, Germany) nations in Europe since the
18th century compared to the USA 1776 ff:
Nothing at all stable peace
within Europe like in the USA 1776 ff. and just
to remind names and dates like Napoleon,
dictator Franco and civil war in Spain, Hitler,
World War I and II both starting in Central
Europe, Civil Wars in Yougoslavia 1991 ff.,
Stalin and communism and dictatorship in Eastern
Europe, German-French war 1870 and many other
negative examples in the history of Europe 1776
ff.
There must be an explanation and
especially a spiritual explanation for such a
different history and development between the
USA and Europe and I can find no other
reasonable explanation for this true
fact of the history of the United States
than there is just a special blessing of
the Lord on the USA because 1. the
Lord is always faithful and
therefore also faithful to that call for His
help at the foundation
of the nation in 1776 and 2. the USA being that
Gentile nation with always
the highest support to Israel and which is
automatically rewarded with the blessing of the
Lord.
Switzerland
(Example: A.D. 1291 and 500 years of piece)
The very interesting fact now is
that the very same that happened 1776 in
Philadelphia also took place 1291 on a very
simple meadow in the central Alps of Europe with
afterwards exactly the very same consequences
(peace within the country for 500 years) like in
the USA 1776 ff. (peace within the country for
250 years).
At that time in the 13th century
the farmers and common people in Europe lived in
simple wooden houses and usually were slaves of
the mighty kings who lived their luxurious life
and were very well protected in their strong
fortresses
made of stone.
But there were at the end of the
13th century about thirty farmers in the central
Alps who decided not to be any longer the slaves
of the king of Habsburg but to become free and
independant and they met 1291 in a small
mountain meadow called "Ruetli" and like the men
1776 in Philadelphia they asked as God fearing men the
Lord and Almighty God to help them to become
delivered and independant of any foreign king
and ruler.
This was the foundation of
small Switzerland in 1291 and there were soon
some local wars in which the Habsburg king tried to take back the small
region he lost and to bring those farmers and
simple people in the heart of the Alps again
under his dominion. But even with a minority
of soldiers and weaker weapons the swiss
farmers in the Alps won each battle against
the mighty army of Habsburg in just defending
themselves for example the famous Morgarten
battle in 1315. Other neighbourhood regions in
the central Alps wanted to become free too and
so the new confederation of 1291 became bigger
and stronger over the next centuries. And it
was later in the 16th century that those farmers had now for the
first time the idea to invade themselves
new regions and so they started a war in the
north of Italy but exactly now they lost
the war in the famous battle of Marignano
1515, after having won before more or
less each defensive battle. And after
Marignano battle there was again taken the
decision always to be free and neutral and
especially never again go abroad for a war and
the commitment of 1291 to be free and
independant was renewed.
And today 2012 there is the
true fact that there was never war inside
of the country of Switzerland for almost
500 years 1515 ff. except of
a very short civil war between the catholics
and protestants in the 19th century.
And this true
historical fact and great miracle
took place in a geographical aerea (Europe)
where there were always many
wars (see list above....) during the last
centuries all around this small country of
Switzerland in the heart of Europe but for
almost 500 years never a war inside of the
country itself and the small neutral and free
country Switzerland was also the place
of the Zionism
conference 1897 and decision to create a
nation Israel
in Basel 1897.
charter of 1291" canton of Schwyz" "battle of
Morgarten" "battel of
Marignano")
And the only reasonable
explanation for this great miracle
and the very same positive result in
two completey different places (USA peace for 250
years and Switzerland peace for 500 years)
is the honest call of God fearing christians
to the Lord for His help and the
very very strong faithfulness of the Lord
and the realities in the invisible world.
There is the devil and the satanic
principalities in the invisible world but
there are also the very mighty
angels of God in the invisible world and
the Lord and His army of mighty
angels are much more powerful than
the devil.
There are also three more very
impressive examples concerning light and
darkness in the invisible world and light and
darkness in the history of a country and its
consequences for the development of a
country and considering all
those five examples about the realities in the
invisible world there can finally in IIb.
only be one logical conclusion and which just
underlines what was already been proved with
the Holy Bible in chapter I that the
Gog and Magog war for 100% sure can only
be after the rapture.
Russia (Today
too much power of prayer in Russia)
The history of Russia I do not
know very well but I know that there are also
dark chapters in its past like the zars, Lenin
and octoberrevolution and putting into
practice the atheistic ideas of Marx,
communism for many decades, Stalin killing several millions of
his own russian people and much more.
But there is also the chapter
of the end of the Iron Curtain and end of
communism in the years 1989/1991ff:
I grew up in the east of free
and neutral Switzerland and not more than 200
miles away from the ancient Iron
Curtain/border to Czekoslovakija. And what
happened in 1968 and then later in 1979 and in
1989 was indeed very near
and impressive and I will never forget it:
The neutral swiss army was
always in highest alert of a surprising attack
of the Russians to Western Europe during my
whole childhood and in this small country with
a population of seven milion people there was
always the possibility to mobilize 600'000
soldiers (= all healthy men in the age of 20
to 45) within 24 hours and them always having
their basic military equipment included the
gun at home and in the swiss mountains
there were many secret tunnels and
hospitals with full nuclear protection
and a big deposit of water and food for seven
million people for one whole year.
And it was in august 1968 - I
can remember that day like it was just
yesterday - that my mother came home from
"shopping" and she and all the other
housewifes and mothers in the neighbourhood
were crying a lot and there was
immediate and very strong fear that World War
III would break out very soon because the
Russian army invaded Praha to destroy from the
very beginning the new democracy movement in
Czekoslovakija and this was too much near and
only 300 miles away and everybody bought as
much food as possible and my mother
could buy nothing at all and told us children
that there was no more food in the supermarket
within few hours.
Eleven years later in 1979 the
Russians invaded Afghanistan on christmas and
many pastors started to explain this being
step I for the forfillment of the Gog and
Magog prophecy and that there
would happen now as step II within
the coming years the Russian invasion
of Iran and then together with Iran and
several more nations finally invade as Gog and
Magog Israel and that this all
would probably happen within few
years and with the expected return of the Lord
Jesus Christ more or less around the year +/-
2000.
But what the pastors were
preaching did not happen but instead of it
there was the deliverance of communism and the
end of the Iron Curtain 1989 and this brings
up the question if the end of communism was
the light and freedom of the Gospel and
deliverance from above or just something like
a grey illusion ?
And as far as I felt and
experienced this all - first a small boy and
having the mercy of God to grow up in a free
and very stable and democratic country
but this always very near the Iron
Curtain and later a born-again christian
when the Russians invaded Afghanistan but
afterwards Russia itself delivered from
communism - I really felt that this was a
certain degree of deliverance and the
Lord Himself brought a certain deliverance
and light and freedom to the communist
countries in Eastern Europe and for the
main purpose of more freedom to preach the
Gospel as it was prophecied
by the Lord Jesus Christ Himself in Matthew
24,14 "...and this Gospel shall be
preached unto the whole world....and then
the end will come" and indeed
I think there was a change in the invisible
world in the Eastern Europeen countries 1989
ff. In April 1992 I
just felt to make a car trip to
Praha/Czekoslovakija and then I was in
Czekoslovakija for the first time in my life
and I really felt great
peace and joy of the Lord for the mighty
deliverance He brought but I
had also the strong
feeling that this would probably only be
temporary and that someday the
open doors will close again.
In Russia there is probably
not the same true fact like in the USA or
Switzerland with a nation
founded in the name of God (and with the
visible consequences and blessings as
mentioned above) but there is indeed to take
note that the deliverance of the
satanic spirit and atheistic idea of
marxism and communism took place and that
there are today many born again christians
in Russia too.
And many christians here in
Switzerland are indeed lukewarm and lazy and
have the "blessing" of a too much comfortable
country where there is very low struggling for life and
surviving and so I even guess that the plain
truth today is that in Russia the percentage
of christians really in the spirit and in the
light of the Lord and as real bride souls
might even be higher than so many lazy
christians and lukewarm churches here in
Switzerland.
And I just cannot imagine that
today with this light of the Lord
and the power of prayer inside of the
country Russia the attack of
Gog and Magog against Israel will start - see
also IIb.
The realities of the invisible
world (mighty angels of God and demons and
principalities against God) the foundation of
a nation in the name of the Lord (see USA and
Switzerland) the behaviour of a government and
of a country towards Israel have always
immediate consequences for the benefit
and blessing or for the curse and destruction
of a country.
It is easy to find many more
examples in history and this is important to
consider and so later taking the
logical conclusion if it is possible or not
that under the actual situation of the
invisible world in Russia and USA before the
rapture to expect the Gog and Magog war
against Israel to start or not.
Just two more short and very
impressive examples (France and Germany) to
underline the importance of the invisible
world and of the disobedience to the Holy
Spirit:
France
(example: 20'000 christians killed in one
night)
France is in Europe a great
nation like Germany or England. Many great men
of God are coming from England (William Booth, Hudson Taylor, John
Wesley, Smith Wigglesworth, Charles Spurgeon,
Isaac Newton and many more) but this is
nothing at all the case in the direct
neighbour nation France.
France was always a catholic
country and never in its history for the last
2000 years there was something like a real
spiritual awakening or revival anywhere in
France and today France is in Western Europe
the one country with the highest percentage of
Muslims.
But it is also a well known
true historical fact that there was in the
Middle Age in the capital of Paris a horrible
massacre against christians and about 20'000
killed in one night by the catholics and the
Lord Himself indeed wanted to bring revival
also to this great nation France but this was
refused by its leaders from the very beginning
and until today there has never been in France
a real spiritual breakthrough (see also www.wikipedia.org "St.
Bartholomew's Day Massacre")
Germany
(Examples: Luther, Illuminati 1776, Goethe,
Berlin declaration against the Holy
Spirit 1909)
Germany is the country where
the reformation under Martin Luther took place
in the 16th century and surely this new theology was an important step
back to the true Gospel of the
mercy of the Lord Jesus Christ
and a very important step of deliverance of
the horrible errors in the doctrine of the
catholic church.
But Martin Luther was probably
not a man filled with the Holy Spirit like
Stephanus and other men of God and only very
few know that the "great" reformer M. Luther
was much against the Jews in his theology
and how can a real man of God be at the same
time being full of Holy Spirit and as well be
against the Jews ? And Luther was also very
aggressive and violent to his
wife.
And for sure the great
reformer - and mostly unknown - and much more
in the light of the Lord than Martin Luther was Jan Hus, a catholic priest from
Praha/Czekoslovakija who travelled to
Konstanz/South of Germany in the 15th century
to translate the Wycliff Bible and within
short time he made "very nervous" the whole
catholic church including the Pope and was
soon put into prison but he continued to
insist on the truth of the Bible and finally
he was accused either to change his theology
or to die on the fire and he decided for the
truth and he had the very same death as
apostle Stephanus and even on the fire he
worshipped the Lord and asked Him to forgive
to those who burnt him. The grave of Jan Hus is only 20 miles
away from my home and there is until
today special athmosphere and Heavenly peace
there.
But Germany is not only the
country of M. Luther or Jan Hus, Germany is
also the country with the Berlin declaration
or of the Illuminati or of the satanic poet
Goethe.
In the same year of the
foundation of the USA was founded in 1776 the
Illuminati in Germany and the most
famous poet of Germany is Johann Wolfgang von
Goethe but his most famous book "Faust" is
very satanic and about the devil and how a
soul makes a contract with the devil and
Goethe lived more or less in the same time
when Illuminati were founded and it is told
that the most famous german poet Goethe had a
horrible death.
And in Germany happened also
the Berlin declaration of 1909.
After the
Azusa street revival 1906 in Los Angel there was the declaration
of
Lutherans and evangelicals theologians in Berlin 1909 and they
declared
that the new pentecostal movement in America was not from
above but
from the devil and an official statement to the Holy Spirit
that He was not
welcome
in Germany.
And what happened shortly
after that Berlin declaration 1909: two world
wars started both in Germany, WW I Germany
attacking France after few days of local
conflicts between Austria and Serbija and WW
II Germany attacking Poland.
Is this just a coincidence or
could it not even much more be the
immediate consequence of disobedience
against the Lord and the refusal of His
Holy Spirit ? (see also in www.wikipedia.org
"Berlin declaration" "Jan Hus" "Illuminati"
"Goethe Faust")
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It is easily possible to find
many more of such examples in the history and
among all nations and they all show the realities in the invisible world and
as well both the
Faithfulness and the Holiness of the
Lord and of His Holy Spirit Who is God Himself.
And considering as well those
realities in the invisible world and the
actual spiritual situation in the USA and
Russia today (before
the rapture) there can be only one logical
conclusion that the Gog and Magog
war can only be after the rapture
and so IIb will underline now what was already
proved with the Holy Bible in chapter I.
IIb
USA and Russia a)
before b) after the
rapture
A USA and
Russia before the rapture
Today it is still the time
before the rapture and actually the USA as
worldwide Nr 1 with the most powerful army and
strongest economy worldwide and the USA still
being a lot blessed (surely of all the nations
USA mostly supporting Israel +
many christian missionaries allover the world + many born-again
christians in the USA and among them still
many bride souls really walking in the light
and spirit of the Lord) by the Lord
because of those true facts and as well
blessed by the Lord because of the call for
His help in 1776.
And there is Russia before the
rapture also with many bride souls and the
light of the Lord in the country too and
actually the leaders of Russia surely too much
afraid to start a military attack against
Israel also because of the too strong military power of the USA.
B USA and
Russia after the rapture
But this constellation will immediately
change with the rapture:
The USA will fall in a
horrible chaos and will be very quickly with a
much weaker and desorientated army and economy
because of the disorganisation and chaos after
the rapture and no more light of
the Holy Spirit in the USA as
a long time very blessed nation before.
And at the very same
time when the light of the Holy Spirit
and the bride souls will leave the USA by the
imminent rapture there
will also Russia fall back in its evil days as
it was already before under Stalin, communism
and the zars.
No more light of
the Holy Spirit in Russia and no more
power of prayer in Russia immediately
after the rapture.
And exactly this future
constellation will easily bring the evil
thought to the leader of Gog and Magog to
attack Israel and Ezekiel states clearly that
the Gog and Magog war starts with
the evil thought of the leader of Gog to
attack Israel "Thou shalt think an evil
thought" Ezekiel 38,10.
And considering the spiritual
realities today with all the christians in
Russia and in the USA it seems indeed
impossible today such an evil thougth starting
in the mind of the leader of Gog and Magog and
also being confronted with
the actual circumstances of the USA and Russia
today before the rapture and being
(unknowingly) influenced by the power of prayer of the
christians in Russia walking in the spirit and
practicing their authority being given from the Lord and as well practicing the
authoritiy of intercession and prayer.
The three Bible verses in
chapter I prove for 100% sure that
the Gog and Magog war can only be after
the rapture and now the spiritual
realities today in the
invisible world in Russia and in the USA as
they were explained in
details in that whole chapter II just underline
and confirm that the Gog and Magog war can
only be after the rapture !!!
III.
Contradictions in each of the three possible
variants and leaving only variant left =
rapture before the Gog and Magog war
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This question "Rapture
before/during/at the end of Gog and Magog war"
can also be tried to answer if coming from the
other side around and looking at all possible
contradictions in each of the three variants
and then only one variant left:
III.1
Contradictions if the rapture is at the
end of Gog and Magog war
The Bible declares clearly
that the Holy Spirit is poured out only in
Israel at the end of the Gog and Magog war but
declares also that during
that war the nations too shall know and see
the power of the Lord but nothing mentioned about pouring out the Holy Spirit on
the nations.
And such a constellation is
only possible if the rapture took place
already before the end of the Gog and Magog
war because otherwise there would of course
also being poured out the Holy Spirit upon the
nations and not only upon Israel as the Bible declares in Ezekiel
38,23 and Ezekiel
39,29
III.2
Contradictions if the rapture is during
the Gog and Magog war
Jesus himself told us "Watch
and pray always for You do not know when
the Lord comes back" and "as
in the days of Noah... they eat, they
drink, they marry....and then the Son of
Man comes back unexpectedly"
Of course the Lord spoke also
about more and more wars and earthquakes
before His return but He did not say specifically that He comes back
exactly during an ongoing war but that He
returns completely unexpectedly when there is just "business as usual".
The ones who teach that the Gog
and Magog war must first happen before the
rapture so declare too that there can be no imminent rapture anytime now which
is a strong contradiction to the
teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ Himself and in
this case we could immediately stop now to watch
and pray and now first only to wait for
the beginning of the Gog and Magog war and then
very quickly spiritually wake up knowing that the
rapture must take place now exactly during that
war because at the end of that war the rapture
must already have taken place for sure and so
the rapture would be put into a very
narrow time frame (probably the Gog
and Magog war will be a very short war
see chapter V !) and so
doctrine III.2 is not logical at all first to
exclude the rapture at least until to the beginning of the Gog
and Magog war but then surely the rapture must take place now
within the very narrow time frame of the duration
of the war (later not possible
because of contradiction III.1) and
so possibility III.2 is first of all a complete contradiction to
the teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.
And the second contradiction for
possibility III.2 are the realities in the
invisible world and mainly
in the two countries USA and Russia before and
after the rapture and
actually before the rapture there is
too much light of the Lord and the power of prayer is too
much strong not only in the USA but also in
Russia until to the day of the rapture and
only after the
rapture that evil thought to
start a war against Israel can come up in the mind
of the leader ofGog.
III.3.
Contradictions if the rapture is before the Gog
and Magog war
Because of the
contradictions in III.1 and III.2 there is only one
possibility left and compared
to III.1 (rapture at the end of the Gog and Magog
war) and to III.2 (rapture
during the Gog and Magog war) there are
no contradictions at all if the rapture takes place
before the Gog and Magog war:
And the following now is indeed 100%
biblically true and 100% logical as well:
- No more prophecy in the
whole Bible that must compulsory
still be forfilled before the
rapture can take place
- The rapture as the
next main prophetic event and can
take place any second
- The rapture as a complete surprise
and as a very
very
powerful message of the Lord (graves opening,
millions
of people and all small children disappearing)
to
the whole world
- No more
pouring out of the Holy Spirit to the
Gentiles
after the rapture
- Very quickly
economical chaos and military weakness in
the USA
- Spiritual hoplessness and
desperation allover the world
among
the nations and nobody worldwide able to answer
the
cries and and questions of all the desperated persons
- No more
light of the Lord and no more power of prayer
in
Russia, in the USA and in all other nations
- The evil thought to start a war and to attack
Israel now
very
easily coming up in the mind of the leader of Gog
- Russia and its
allies attacking Israel in the Gog and
Magog
war and this for 100% sure at a time before
all
the wordlwide remaining Jews went back to Israel
- During that war the
desperate nations see the power of
the Lord again but no
pouring out of the Holy Spirit to
the
nations promised
- Overwhelming
victory of Israel against Gog and Magog
by God Almighty Himself and
all nations see this miracle
- Pouring out the
Holy Spirit upon Israel (Ezekiel 39,25)
- Worldwide
evangelism during the Great Tribulation with
powerful Jewish Evangelists filled
with the Holy Spirit
same
as Stephanus and the other apostles in the Acts
and
Israel and Jerusalem as the worldwide main
center
of
evangelism during the Great Tribulation
There are strong contradictions in III.1
and III.2 but there are no contradictions at all in III.3. and so I believe and
I am convinced for 100% sure that
- The rapture can
only be before
the Gog and Magog war
- The rapture can
take place any
second by now
- It is much much
later on God's
endstime clock than too many
christians
are thinking
Another very interesting thought is that
there was already Pentecostal in Jerusalem 2000 years ago
and the consequence was the very powerful
evangelistic
ministry of Peter, Paul and all the
other apostles concerning to the
book of Acts and the fact
that Israel wins the Gog and Magog war and that at the end of the war the Holy Spirit is
poured out only upon Israel means that there will be
again
- Pentecostal in
Jerusalem
concerning to Ezekiel
39,29
= pouring out
the Holy Spirit
upon Israel
- And
the consequences of that
pouring out of the Holy Spirit
upon Israel will be the very
same like 2000 years ago at
Pentecostal = very powerful
apostolic
ministry of the Jews
during the Great Tribulation
IV. Personal inner testimony of other
christians
Compared to 1979 most of the christians here have fallen
asleep and do not
expect any longer the Lord's return very soon but that the
Lord will come back
"a
little bit later" than originally expected when
those souls still were in
the
first love to Jesus but as it should
also continue to be concerning to
Revelation
2,4 "I have somewhat against thee because thou hast left
thy first love".
Trying to discuss such things as the Gog
and Magog war, timing of the rapture those sleeping christians always answer
more or less the very same as "....it is probably not possible to find out with
the scripture the exact timing and the Lord anyhow seems now to return "a little
bit later" than originally expected and He will for sure not yet return today
or tomorrow".
But there is also the second group of
christians who are still expecting the
return of
the Lord and the rapture on a daily basis.
And discussing the very same endtime
questions like timing of the rapture this second group now answers
completely different than the sleeping ones/group I and the brethren of the second
group usually answer more or less "... Even that I do not so much understand
about endtime prophecy like others or like our pastor, I just have in my
spirit the strong feeling that the
rapture is before the Gog and Magog war".
Chapter I proves
with three Bible verses that the rapture
can only be before the Gog and Magog war
and now not only chapter II (realities of the
invisible world) but also
chapter IV (the inner testimony of other awakened
christians and brethren who
still are in the first love) underline
once more and finally that
the
rapture can only be before the Gog and Magog
war.
The most important for a bride is that the
bride is in first love with the bridegroom (Revelation 2,4)
and the very same it is with the church and
with the soon wedding
of the lamb - there are today the
bride souls who continue to
expect the Lord and they remain in the
first love but there are also the
other ones who have left the
first love and those souls will probably also miss
the rapture.
V. Where is the Antichrist
during the Gog and Magog War
and how long will be the duration of that war
?
(Remember League of Nations/WW I and
UNO/WW II)
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Probably the Gog and Magog war
will be a very short war of not
more than a few weeks or even
much shorter. Because it is not a normal war between
two nations but the Lord and
God Almighty Himself will finish this war !
And the One Who created Heaven and Earth in
seven days was also able to finish
the war for Israel in six days (1967).
And of course the One Who created Heaven
and Earth in seven days is easily able to finish the Gog and Magog war even
within five days and again with
Israel as the winner.
And now the Bible also writes that the
Antichrist makes a peace contract with Israel.
And the classical situation for a peace
contract is that usually a peace
contract is
always made with the winner of a war.
A loser of a war usually not receives a peace contract but only must sign a
complete capitulation contract.
The Gog and Magog will be a war including
the use of nuclear weapons and this will war will shock and paralyze the whole
world. But God Himself will finish the war very quickly.
And at the end of the Gog and
Magog war there will be exactly the same situation like at the end of
World War I and World War II:
At the end of WW I and WW II the whole
world was weakened and with the only one loud cry to never let
it happen again such a war like WW
I and WW II. And at the end
of Gog and Magog war it will be exactly the same
again like in 1918 and 1945.
And what were the political leaders
and the nations doing after 1918 and 1945:
At the end of WW I there was founded the
League of Nations 1920 in Geneva/Switzerland and after WW II the
UNO 1945 in New York.
And the very same can very well happen
again at the end of Gog and Magog war and this is indeed very interesting
that the Bible writes that the
Antichrist makes
a peace contract with Israel and so
it could very well exactly just happen like this immediately after the rapture the Gog and
Magog war with a very short duration
and with the victory of Israel and exactly then the
Antichrist appears on the
scene and makes a peace contract with Israel and so
this would be very biblical
too that the Antichrist appears on the
scene soon after the rapture.
And of course the whole world will welcome
this man because he is the one who brings back again to the whole world
stability and peace and people will even be much more blind than for example
in 1918 or 1945 because then at that
time the Holy Spirit is being
taken off by the rapture - and so the Antichrist has
a "very easy game to
play" to win the whole world for him (with of course
one exception = Israel becaus
of the pouring out of the Holy Spirit upon Israel).
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The fact that the Lord after many years of
silence immediately spoke again to me about the Gog and Magog war during last
winter 2012 was indeed a very great and positive surprise and can only mean
-
The rapture is at the door
- It is much
much later on God's
endtime clock than too many
are supposing it
If anything should be wrong in my argumentation
that the rapture for 100% sure only can be before the Gog and
Magog war then I would be the
first one to humble and to
apologize but of course I can accept as the only
correction only the Holy Bible.
Hope You feel encouraged and blessed and meet
us soon in Heaven.
Maranatha
Daniel
from Switzerland