Hi;

> > John B (26 Feb 2017)
"As Paul Harvey would say......"And now you know the rest of the story".....and what a story it is"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2017/johnb226-1.htm

> > So this birth of the manchild is the rapture of the church....but when?

I think it will be Mid-Trib.

> > In Isaiah 66:7 we learn that this manchild is born before “she” was in > labor and that there were no labor pains....

Isa 66:7,8 says, "Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child. 8  Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children."

> > The bible indicates that the antichrist and I presume the false prophet > rise to power right after the rapture of the church. My discernment of > scripture indicates that the antichrist will arrive on the world stage > in a time of confusion and chaos as a result of the rapture. This person > / beast will seem to have all the answers as to what just happened to > millions of people who disappeared..."

I think the Antichrist is already in power when the Mid-Trib Rapture takes place. The False Prophet comes to power soon after the Rapture.

I used to believe in a Pre-Trib Rapture, But, here is the Scripture that finally opened my eyes. The First-Trump Rapture of ITh 4:16,17 is Mid-Trib.

Rev 13:5-11 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., during the first half of the Tribulation). 6  And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the wise-virgin saints caught up just before the False Prophet comes to power). 7  And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish-virgin saints left behind), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9  If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10  He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11  And I beheld another beast (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

THE FALSE PROPHET RULES DURING THE 3.5 YEAR GREAT TRIBULATION

> > It appears to me that this beast spends 1260 days, 42 months, 3.5 years > or half of the full 7 year tribulation period befriending and deceiving > the world and consolidating his power structure..... all that time > speaking great things and blasphemies. He even has the Jews thinking he > is someone special....their Messiah maybe. But after 42 months or again > 1260 days of this “con job” he changes from Mr. Nice Guy to the satanic > / demonic filled beast that he really is.

To me, the False Prophet speaks as a dragon at Mid-Trib.

> > Now as per scripture, at this half way point in the 7 years, he changes > radically. He then opens his mouth in blasphemy against God, to > blaspheme God's name, God's tabernacle, and all those who live in > heaven. Basically what this is saying is that this beast, this > antichrist, will declare himself to be the one true God of the universe > and that he and his kingdom reside here on earth. He then declares an > end to any sacrifices and offerings worldwide being offered to any god > other than him. And to cease these offerings under the penalty of death. > This “I am the one true god declaration” will I believe cause quite the > blow-back from the major religions of the world. To prove that he is > what he says.........he kills the two witnesses that no one to this > point in 1260 days could harm. This will prove to the then “witness > weary world” that he is who he claimed he is. He then will start his > terrible reign of power and terror for the last 3.5 years of the > tribulation period......I believe then to be called the great > tribulation period or the last 42 months of the 7 year period.

LOVE YOUR PENTECOST "BOOKENDS"

> > This “rapture birth” obviously happens before the other birth in > September which is accompanied by great labor pains....so when might > this no pain “rapture birth” happen....has God given us any clues?? Yes, > and it is “pictured” to happen in late spring or early summer.

> > I say this because both Isaiah 18 and the The Song of Solomon both > indicate a spring or early summer rapture. Both of those areas of > scripture deal with the rapture and they “key in” on one particular > object or event......grapes. Both of these areas of scripture indicate a > rapture happening when grapes are in a particular condition.

> > Isaiah 18, I believe states “the rapture timing” this way.....”and the > sour grape is ripening in the flower”....

> > The Song of Solomon, I believe, states “the rapture timing” this > way.....”and the vines with the tender grapes give a good smell”....

> > Also who can discount Pentecost as being the time frame for the > rapture...as I stated last week....

> > If I was a betting man I would say the God would orchestrate the rapture > to happen this year during the Feast of Pentecost in the first part of > June. That way He would have “bookends”. The first Pentecost to start > the church and the church age........ and this June's (maybe) last > Pentecost to close out the Church age.

I agree with the possible Rapture on next Pentecost Sunday, June 4, 2017.

> > The whole “Israel under siege scenario” will I believe happen this year > in late August or early September

I think this will take place at the end of the almost 3.5 year shortened Great Tribulation.

> > Also before I forget..... the constellation Virgo where the great > Revelation 12 sign appears normally only has 9 stars but for this great > sign God moved 3 wandering stars or what we call planets into the mix so > that the total would be 12 stars at the head of Virgo. So, what again is > to be birthed during that great September sign? The 12 tribes of Israel > from start to finish......what amazing choreography by God with this > star alignment to reflect who this sign was referred to.

On page 97 in Kerrod's StarGuide, there are 15 main stars in Virgo. On page 93, there are 12 main stars in Taurus.

Agape,
Marilyn Agee
mjagee@verizon.net