Hi John and Doves, More info regarding this man. Two things I had to catch myself on regarding immediately discounting him as one of the witnesses: 1) scripture doesn't specify directly they are Jewish, although it does refer to them as olive trees 2) they do not have to miraculously appear on the earth to be called by God - think of John the Baptist who prophesied in the spirit of Elijah yet we know his lineage. More importantly let's focus on his words. Interestingly he speaks of Thess 4. Take a look at this compilation of videos and quotes on ATS. Would we expect the witnesses to say anything else. We need to watch closely. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread933260/pg1 Blessings in Christ, Sandy Curtis