Hey Jimmy,

Almost my entire life, the thought about the Lords kingdom has been seared in my mind. The Father, The Son, The Holy Ghost, my life..... fatherhood, raising children, right and wrong, laws of man and laws of nature........ in essence, I have been on a walk with the Lord since I was 15 years old and even before I was saved then, my thoughts were always about why am I here and what is my purpose..... where do I fit in?

A man's convictions are powerful, and strong in his mind, especially as he gets older and puts away childish things, and contemplates his destiny. I don't know everything, brother, but I have a conviction about this subject. Let me explain as best I can?

Firstly, I have always read and studied the KJV of the Holy Bible. I only use other one's as modern day reference points, for study purposes, to compare what I think the KJV is saying, by reading translations in modern language. 

I can tell you for sure, one thing that you are correct about! The 24 elders and the prayers of saints mentioned in revelation 5: 8, are all Christians! But the ELDERS are the one's doing the singing! Thus, they are representing the SAINTS PRAYERS before the Lamb. The elders are already in heaven! The elders are in the first person and are including all the SAINTS PRAYERS via the GOLDEN VIALS FULL OF ODOURS! 

Revelation 5: 9 tells us that "they sang a new song. Prayers do not sing. The 4 beasts and the 24 elders are the ONLY ONE'S present before the LAMB in verse 8 of chapter 5 in revelation. They are the one's that FELL DOWN before the Lamb! 

If you will please study it carefully, and break the verse's down structurally, you will see what I am trying to get you to understand. The SAINTS are included in the ENTIRE FOLD of CHRISTIANS, by the 4 beasts and the 24 elder's, who are singing the NEW song, saying, revelation 5: 9...........Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

The beasts and the elders are including ALL CHRISTIANS, from every walk of life, including themselves, while SINGING A NEW SONG, about this VERY SUBJECT that we are now engaged in conversation about. The elders are representing the entire church of God at this meeting in the MIDST OF THE THRONE OF GOD! 

Now Jimmy, notice that the song that the 24 elders and the 4 beasts are singing, is a NEW song. This would infer that not everyone would be familiar with it! Jimmy, I feel that this new song is the (true) meaning of this verse that is being relaid to you now! I did not even understand it exactly until the Lord had me sit down today to type it to you! Praise God! Jimmy, the only other people that are mentioned in revelation that sing as it were a new song, are the 144,000 of:

Revelation 14:3........... And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 

These people are killed by the beast back in revelation 11: 7, they are called up to heaven in revelation 11: 12, and return with the Lamb on mount Sion in revelation 14: 1. This explains how they are able to sing a new song before the throne in revelation 14: 3.

Notice also that revelation 14: 2............ John mentions hearing the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

These 144,000 individuals are now singing before the throne of God with the 24 Elders harping along with their harps, as mentioned in revelation 5: 8. They are all singing a NEW SONG which no one else could understand. (Singing a new song could mean that it is a new meaning to the masses, one that is only understood by them). 

Jimmy, the government of our Lord, Jesus Christ, and God Almighty, is a structured government! It has total order to it. That is why we are sitting here talking to each other. We are contemplating this very subject as revelation 5 is all about the throne and structure. Holy Jerusalem will be home to all believers in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice for us. I have come to understand that all power emanates from Jehovah-God Almighty and his throne and Jesus Christ his son, through the power of the Holy Ghost to mankind. So the structure would go to Holy Jerusalem where God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost will dwell with mankind with a government of order. Notice that in revelation 5, the throne has Jesus in the midst of it with the 4 beasts and the 24 elders next. These 24 men are the patriarchs of ancient Israel's 12 tribes and the 12 apostles that have ALL died already. But John is narrating revelation in the SPIRIT.... revelation 1:10........ I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet. He was telling us things that were to be in the future.........OUR TIME NOW! 

When Jesus spoke about having another fold of sheep, he was talking to the disciples. They are of the government of God, as we see them represented before the throne in the very verse we are discussing in revelation 5. The 12 disciples and the 12 patriarchs of Israel represent these 24 men! The next in order from the elders are the 144,000. They represent the 12 tribes of Israel and are numbered 12,000 from each tribe, as stated in revelation 7. I believe that these 12 tribes represent the 2 witnesses of revelation 11 by being broken down into the 2 kingdoms of ancient Israel, the Southern and the Northern. Throughout history the Southern kingdom has kept the law but not worshipped the messiah and the Northern kingdom worships the messiah but does not keep the law! How ironic! But as Ezekiel 37:22 says......... And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all. 

Dear brother, you can be sure of your faith and what we are witnessing today! You have Jesus Christ in your heart, I can tell. We have all been bought and paid for by our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and regardless of insignificant disagreements, we all- belong to him....

YBIC

Michael      

PS..... Have you noticed that Holy Jerusalem's physical structure in revelation 21, incorporates the 12 apostles, the names of the 12 tribes of Israel, the number 12,000, the number 144, etc. Can you see how it is all structured? Praise the Lord!