TO DONNA DANNA
(RE: Donna Danna (28
March 2012)
"TO: PATTI C.)
AND
(RE: Donna Danna (28
March 2012)
"TO:
PATTI C. -- FALLEN ANGELS MATING WITH WOMEN")
Dear Donna,
I will attempt to answer
both questions from your two letters to me, in this one
post.
Satan
is a spirit being, he possessed the serpent, just like he
will possess the Antichrist.
The serpent was a beautiful glowing upright
standing creature with a body, Satan indwelt him, and the
physical being of the serpent, had sex with Eve, when she
disobeyed God’s direct command not to even touch the
forbidden tree.
God knew what was going to
happen before he even created the world, and already had a
plan for it, therefore He already knew what Eve would do,
and that makes it even more abundantly clear, that God
gave her the extra warning not to touch it.
I
do agree with you, that she would have to touch it to eat
it. Maybe
looking at the word “touch” would give us a clearer
understanding of why the Lord told her such a thing.
H5060 נגע - Strong's Hebrew
Lexicon Number
נגע
nâga‛
naw-gah'
A primitive root; properly to touch, that
is, lay the hand upon (for
any purpose; euphemistically, to lie with a woman);
by implication to reach
(figuratively to arrive,
acquire);
violently, to strike
(punish, defeat, destroy, etc.)
KJV Usage: beat, (X be able to)
bring (down), cast, come (nigh), draw near (nigh), get
up, happen, join, near, plague, reach (up), smite,
strike, touch.
I
covered all this in my study of the Temptation, if you
would like to refer back to that.
Satan
is
a spirit being cannot have direct physical relations
with anyone; he has to possess a body that already is in
existence. This
would certainly be true of all the fallen angels which
left their first estate, which was HEAVEN, when they
fell with Satan. The
Antichrist will not be Satan directly, but Satan will
indwell the body of a man, just like he did the body of
the serpent.
That
is why I am so against anyone believing that God would
allow spirit beings to have sex with woman, it is not
possible without possessing a physical body that already
exists.
Satan
possessed
the serpent in Genesis and caused the fall, and he will
again possess the body of the Antichrist when his spirit
is thrown to earth, in another attempt to bruise
Christ’s heal, before Christ will completely crush his
head.
There
are
other good studies about this, I am sure you can find
one that may answer your question better. Or perhaps,
ask another dove on this site, what they feel to be
true.
God
bless you!
Patti C.
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Donna Danna (28 March 2012)
"TO:
PATTI
C."
I
really didn't think about the possibility of the Lord
telling Eve something different from what He had already
told Adam because we are just going by what Eve said that
the Lord said to her because the Bible doesn't say that
the Lord said that, and we don't know if the
Lord directly told her later not to eat nor touch the
fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and
evil although we know that the Lord directly
told Adam not to eat the fruit of that tree.
I thought Adam might have relayed the
information to Eve not to eat the fruit from it.
There is no mention of the Lord telling Adam not to
touch the fruit. And of course, the Lord doesn't
lie. If Eve added those words about not touching the
fruit, and God really didn't tell her not to touch
the fruit, then I don't think she would have realized at
that point in time that she had added to the words of God
since she had no knowledge of good and evil at that
point in time. However, after she ate the forbidden
fruit and had a knowledge of good and evil, I think
she would have realized it then. I can't say
that I ever thought about the possibility of the Lord
telling Adam and Eve something different until you pointed
out that possibility. However, I don't see what the
Lord's point would have been to tell Eve not to touch the
forbidden fruit when the Lord didn't originally tell Adam
that. Did the Lord later directly tell both Adam and
Eve not to eat nor touch the fruit lest they die?
The Bible doesn't say. We only have what Eve said
that the Lord said, but it doesn't make sense that
the Lord later told them both not to eat nor touch the
fruit lest they die because in order to eat the fruit, you
have to touch it. Even if the Lord possibly just
told Eve alone not to eat nor touch the fruit, why would
it be necessary for Him to tell her not to touch it
because by eating it she would be touching it which is why
I thought of the possibility of Eve adding the words not
to touch the forbidden fruit.
Donna Danna (28 March 2012)
"TO:
PATTI
C. -- FALLEN ANGELS MATING WITH WOMEN"
"I do believe there were giants, but
they were not the result of fallen angels, although they
may very well have been demon possessed. God is in total
control and he would not have allowed such a thing. Satan
had to ask God’s permission to torment Job…and he was the
head honcho of the fallen angels, so certainly those other
fallen angels would have had to have the Lord’s permission
to mate with man. And I find it difficult to believe he
would have given it."
My
question is if you believe that the other fallen angels
would have needed God's permission to have sex with the
daughters of men, how come you don't believe that the
Serpent, who is Satan according to Rev. 20:2, needed God's
permission to have sex with Eve?
If
Satan (the Serpent) and the other fallen angels believed
they needed God's permission to have sex with women, I
would agree with you that none of them would have gotten
God's permission, which means Satan and the fallen
angels would not have had sex with women. However,
if Satan and the other fallen angels all had free will,
and some of them decided to disobey God and have sex with
women, some of them could have done so and produced a race
of giants. In my opinion, that is why the angels in
Jude 1:6-7 are in everlasting chains under darkness unto
the judgment of the great day for going after strange
flesh, and the reason why I don't think Satan was chained
up with those fallen angels is because he didn't have sex
with Eve.