T0 DONNA DANNA
(RE: Donna Danna (26
March 2012)
"WAS THERE AN ADDER IN THE GARDEN OF
EDEN?")
Hello
Donna,
Interesting
concept, but I find it difficult to believe. Maybe I
am just dense, that could be the case, but I read your
post twice just to be sure of what you said, and still
did not understand where you came up with Eve lying to
the serpent. Where in the Bible does it say this is
so?
With
all due respect, as I understand it, in Gen.2:15-17,
God is speaking only to Adam. You quoted:
Genesis 2:15-17, "And the LORD God took
the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and
to keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of
every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the
tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat
of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt
surely die."
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We
must take into consideration that Eve was not created
until after Adam was given that command, not
until Genesis 2:21-23.
This being the case, she was not there, yet, to
hear what God said to Adam. As we see, it is not until 4
verses later when Eve is formed from Adam.
21”And the LORD God
caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he
took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead
thereof;
22 And the
rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman,
and brought her unto the man.
23 “And Adam
said, This
is
now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be
called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.” (KJV)
Most
likely God’s command to Eve was similar, but he added
“neither shall ye touch it”, we don’t know for sure, as
his command to Eve is not given. There is no
reason for Eve to lie; she had not eaten of the fruit yet,
so we cannot assume she is a fallen being. There is
absolutely no biblical support to assume that Eve was a
liar. She was telling the serpent what the Lord had told
her…and I cannot believe that God would lie to Eve.
I
am not trying to be rude or negative, but, by stating that
Eve is a liar, without any Biblical support, seems to be
doing exactly what you warned others, so strongly about,
in the rest of your post, which I will include here:
(Your words)
What does the Bible tell us about
adding to God's words?
Proverbs 30:5-6, "Every word of
God [is] pure: he [is] a shield unto them that put their
trust in him. Add
thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be
found a liar."
Adding to the words of God does
not just mean publishing and printing a Bible and putting
new verses in the Bible. It is one thing to present
one's own ideas in a post as a theory or a possibility or as
one's own opinion and state it as such, but we must be
careful when we claim that God said or did something in His
scriptures which is clearly not there in the scriptures lest
we add to God's words.
We all must also be
careful if we claim the Holy Spirit led us or moved us
to write about something in a post that is not in the Bible
when there is no Bible verse for it lest we add to the words
of God because two or more people can both claim to be led
by the Holy Spirit and yet have opposing views which means a
person reading a post can not base the truth on
what any human being claims because both opposing views
cannot be right. Acts 17:11 says, "These were more
noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the
word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures
daily, whether those things were so."
We are to search the scriptures daily
to see whether what presented to us in a post or in a
pastor's sermon is true or not. You can't just
take the word of anyone claiming to be led by the Holy
Spirit because anyone can make that claim. What if a
fallen angel came disguised like a man and claimed to be led
by the Holy Spirit, and preached a false gospel? Would
you be able to distinguish what is the truth and what
is are the lies if he mixed them
together? There is only one truth which can
be found in the scriptures which were inspired by God so
every believer needs to know what is in the scriptures in
order to be able to discern between truth and
lies. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 tells us, "All scripture [is] given
by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in
righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly
furnished unto all good works."
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Please
forgive me if I have misunderstood what you were trying to
convey. If I am wrong in my understanding, I apologize,
and look forward to you setting me straight. Like I said
earlier, I could be dense.
In
Christ love,
Patti
C.
Just for
clarification’s sake here is the first part of your post.
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Donna Danna (26
March 2012)
"WAS THERE AN ADDER IN THE GARDEN OF
EDEN?"
An adder can be a poisonous viper or a
venomous serpent, but another definition for "adder" is "one
who adds." The woman Eve apparently was an
adder because she adds her words to God's words as shown
below in the book of Genesis:
Genesis 2:15-17, "And the LORD
God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to
dress it and to keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man,
saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou
shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof
thou shalt surely die."
Genesis 3:1, "Now the serpent was more
subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had
made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye
shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman
said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees
of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in
the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of
it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die."
What words did Eve add to God's
words? She added "neither shall ye touch
it."