Michael Colunga (27 March 2012)
"RE:  Mary Ames--"Mais oui!  I most definitely consider myself to be a Berean...""

 
Hello, John and Doves,
 
After reading your post here, but after also having replied to your other post, I can only hope you pop me in your "unsolved mystery" file.  That is to say, don't try to figure out whether I'm crazy or just plain stoopid [sic].  We just disagree.  We'll talk on the way up.
 
Baruch HaShem Yeshua Ha Mashiach,
Mike C.
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Mary Ames (24 March 2012)
"RE: Michael Colunga and the Jubilee of 5776 ( circa 2016)"


Michael--

Mais oui!  I most definitely consider myself to be a Berean--in fact I am obnoxious about it to most people.  I've lost many "friends" because of my adherence to scripture.

My philosophy is that if it isn't clear in scripture--then it either it isn't time to know or it is not for us to know.  And sources outside the Bible are truly wonderful to have--as long as they support what the scriptures say. 

Regarding the Jubilee timing, I believe it isn't for us to know.  Otherwise, YHWH would have left better clues.  You can show me all the research in the world, but if it isn't backed by scripture, I put it in the "unsolved mystery" file.

If Israel or Judah ever kept a Jubilee year, it was a rare thing.  Some believe that Yahshua was born on a Jubilee, some believe He died/resurrected at a Jubilee.  Who is to know?  Scripture doesn't tell us.  I do believe His return will usher in a Jubilee year.

So you can show me outside study after outside study--and nothing proves to me UNQUESTIONABLY when the Jubilee falls.  The only reference to the actual occurrence and timing of a Jubilee that I have found in scripture is in in 2 Kings 19:29 when Hezekiah is facing Sennacherib and his threats:

2Ki 19:29  And this shall be the sign for you: you shall eat this year that which grows of itself, and in the second year that which springs of the same; and in the third year you shall sow, and reap, and plant vineyards, and eat their fruit.

That sounds like a Jubilee cycle to me--and the only one I have found in scripture.  (Anyone know another one?)  

So, theoretically, if we can figure out the year that YHWH faced Sennacherib and the Assyrian army (which was wiped out by a messenger of YHWH) then we could get close to the Jubilee cycle.  But, then do we have to take into account the change of calendar when YHWH turned the sun back by about 40 minutes (10 degrees)?(It happens in the next chapter of 2 Kings, which may or may not be significant.)

Did that alter the counting of the Jubilee cycle? It sure messed up the moon cycle!  So, do we earn an extra five days each year to count toward our "Jubilee account"?

After struggling with this issue for sometime, I have laid it to rest.  I do believe the timing of the Jubilee is one of those things we should put in the "unsolved mysteries" file.

I think you hit the nail on the head.  Get ready and be ready.  Life as we know it is about to change.  The "many" are getting to be greatly impacted. 

Blessings in the Great Names of Yah YHWH and Yahshua YHWH,

Mary Ames


Michael Colunga (23 March 2012) 
"RE: Mary Ames--"RE The very next Jubilee year is UNQUESTIONABLY 5776""

 
Hello, John and Doves,
 
You must be a Berean, Mary Ames.  Good for you.
 
 
If you use 1415 BC for the date the children of Israel began to take possession of the Promised Land, you get to the 70th Jubilee to be announced on Yom Kippur, 5776.
 
Btw, 1415 BC also marks the change from linear A to linear B on Crete.  This change shows the influence of the Hebrew aleph-bet, regardless of its supposed predecessors.  The timing shows the presence of the Hebrew children in the promised land.  If it were not so, there was ample opportunity before 1415 BC for the Phoenicians [Coastal Canaanites] to have culturally penetrated the Grecian peninsula with their language. 
 
 
If you are looking for a consensus, "we'll all talk about it on the way up."
 
from Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, part 2, screenplay by Steve Kloves, based on a novel by J.K. Rowling.
 
Perhaps it is best just to be ready.  N'est ce pas?
 
Baruch HaShem Yeshua Ha Mashiach,
Mike C.