Bruce. Brother I have to hold you to a higher standard when it comes to the words of Jesus Christ in Matthew 24.You wrote;"Dear Doves,You, first, must accept as the truth what the Scriptures say in (Matthew 24:29) "Immediately after the tribulation of those days..." and in (Mark13:24) "But in those days following that tribulation..." .Then they both go on to describe the Day of the Lord rapture of the Church in (Matthew 24:30) "At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky..." and in (Mark 13:26) "At that time men will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds...."The phrase: "At that time" in (Matthew 24:30) and (Mark 13:26) both mean the rapture happens "at that time" "after" or "following" the "tribulation of those days". The phrase; "tribulation of those days" refers back to the tribulation that is described as "shortened and cut short" for the sake of the Church in (Matthew 24:21-22) and (Mark 13:20).Then they both go on to tell us the Parable of the Fig Tree in (Matthew 24:32) and (Mark 13:28) "I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened." That leaves no doubt that it is the rapture of the Church that is being discussed in these previous Scriptures.Therefore, the Scriptures tell us that the CHURCH IS RAPTURED AFTER THE TRIBULATION WHICH IS SHORTENED AND CUT SHORT for the Church only.Now you can understand the following Scriptures:"Bruce, you do know that Jesus is talkling to the Jews in this chapter? He has not died yet...the rapture was an unknown promise. Bruce what Matthew 24 is.......Is Jesus telling them about the 7 year tribulation. He IS NOT talking to the church !!!! Re-read the chapter and lay it along side Revelation....they line up perfectly. Do you see it now?Bruce, ask yourself, "what is the 7 year Tribulation for?Answer: 1. To punish the Christ rejecting "earth dwellers"2. To Bring God's "harlot wife" back to him........God the father took a wife, Israel. She played the harlot and for a while he left her. But now, soon, He's ready to take her back. He will do that in the Tribulaton. The Old testiment book of Hosea is the picture of this. Hosea has to marry a harlot to give the people a visual demonstration of their unfaithfulness to Yahweh.Purposes of the Tribulation
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To prepare Israel for her Messiah (Jeremiah 30:7).•
To purge unbelieving Israel (Ezekiel 20:37-38).•
To pour out judgment on the unbelieving Gentiles (2 Thessalonians 2:12; Revelation 3:10).•
To bring a conclusion to the times of the Gentiles (Luke 21:24), which began when Jerusalem fell into the hands of the Gentiles in 586 B.C.She, Israel, gave us a son, Jesus !!!! God gave his Son a Bride.......the Church. The "BrideGroom" will have His Bride BEFORE Yahweh begins the process of taking His harlot Wife back!!Now Bruce, answer this question please. If we are washed pure by the Blood of Christ and presented to the Father as clean, why would you put the Bride in any part of the "Christ rejecting punishment of the earth dwellers? It just doesn't fit!I hope you see this........ as it is very concerning to see scripture twisted and tortured here on 5 doves.Only, a Pre-Tribulation makes sense in reading God's word.......therefore, it is obvious, we are NOT in the tribulation yet.