Hi
Patti,
Thanks
for your kind words. We are just both trying
our best to figure things out. It isn’t always
easy. When I spent those 7 years constantly
reading books from BIOLA’s Seminary
Collection, I found all sorts of different
opinions. Some I agreed with, some I didn’t.
Some authors make statements without backing
them up with Scripture. That doesn’t help
much. We should have Bible support for our
opinions. The hardest thing to figure out was
to identify what the cherubim represented In
Gen 3:24 and Ezekiel One and Ten. In all those
books I read, no one knew. I only figured it
out with the Lord’s help as I looked up the
original words in Strong’s Concordance. When I
could finally identify the Sun and Earth, it
finally came clear. The 4 cherubim were the 4
terrestrial planets. Their four faces means
that they face the four directions. Those same
faces were on the flags placed at the cardinal
points of the compass when Israel camped
around the Tabernacle. The wheels within
wheels are their concentric orbits. The throne
of Jesus, the only God/man, is on Saturn, the
planet with a ring system like a rainbow
called brightness all around. Saturn is the
third heaven (Mars, Jupiter, Saturn) that Paul
was caught up to in II Cor 12:1-4.
>
> Thank you for your kind and informative
response. It was difficult to find 4 studies
that did not support the fallen angel view…you
are definitely in the majority in what you
believe. First, let me say, that I agree with
you 100% that there were giants, so if some of
those studies argued that point, I, too do not
hold that view.
Certainly in my personal study I
maintain that there were giants, I just
dispute their origin.
>
> I find it interesting that no one
challenged me on any of my findings until I
got to the sons of God, daughters of men
study. I
first maintained that there were two
creations…that was my first revelation, and no
one called me on that. The next
one, about Cain and Abel being twin brothers
of different fathers, no one called me on
that, either.
That’s too easy. You know the Bible is
true. It’s your anchor. If you read it, before
you got to Gen 6, in Gen_4:1, it plainly says,
“ADAM knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and
bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from
the LORD.” Gen_4:25 says, “And ADAM knew his wife
again; and she bare a son, and called his name
Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me
another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
Satan, who failed his test, tries to influence
mankind to lead him astray. We can’t be led by
Satan very far and win our test.
When the Jehovah’s Witnesses came to my
door and wanted to have Bible study with me, I
refused. I wanted to read the Bible all the way
through before studying with anyone else, and I
read all of it. That wasn’t easy. I tried and
stopped four times when I got to the begats in
Genesis. Then I read all of the New Testament.
Only after that could I read the Old Testament
straight through. I’m sure glad I did. If we
know our Bible, that one thing can protect us
against heresy, and you find that all over the
place among the writings of man. I have read
about 17 versions of the Bible straight through.
Each time I read it, I chose a different
version, but I must confess, I did skip the
begats in some of them. After I finally caught
on that Saturn was Heaven, I read the whole
Bible again, writing down every scripture I
could find that pertained to that subject. Only
then did I write my book “Heaven Found; a Butter
and Honey Star.” I was writing a different book,
about The Revelation of Jesus Christ, but I had
to stop and write Heaven Found, then go back and
finish the other book. I caught on to where
Heaven was when I looked up the meaning of
sapphire in Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary. It
means dear to the planet Saturn, from the
Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear, and in
Ezekiel 1, a God/man was sitting on his throne
on a sapphire.
Eze 1:26-28
says, “And above the firmament (expanse of
space) that was over their heads (i.e., farther
out in space than the terrestrial planets) was
the LIKENESS (symbolic language) of a throne, as
the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the
LIKENESS of the throne was the LIKENESS as the
appearance of a man (a man/God, verse 1) above
upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of
amber (Saturn has amber on it), as the
appearance of fire round about within it (Saturn
gives off more heat than it gets from the Sun),
from the appearance of his loins (i.e., from the
equator in one version) even upward, and from
the appearance of his loins (from the equator)
even downward, I saw as it were the appearance
of fire, and it had brightness round about
(i.e., Saturn’s ring system). 28 As the
appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in
the day of rain, so was the appearance of the
brightness round about. This was the appearance
of the likeness of the glory of the LORD.”
Heaven is marked. It has a halo.
Back
to our subject. There may have been many
creations. How are we going to know how many
unless God tells us? Just on Earth, we find
bones of huge animals, dinosaurs,
saber-tooth tigers, etc., that are not
living on Earth today. I have been to the
Dinosaur National Monument. I saw the bones
of a dinosaur still embedded in the hill
that the Monument was built around. Their
bones are entombed in the hills around
there. I have been to the Brea Tar Pits. I
have seen the bones of pre-adamic creatures
that got trapped in the tar pits. I have
seen the huge bubbles a foot or more wide in
the nearby water where tar and gas are still
working their way to the surface. This Earth
is old, but we can believe it when
Gen 1:1 says, “In the beginning God created
the heaven (i.e., Saturn, the ringed planet,
our 3rd heaven; II Cor 12:1-4, Eze 1:26-28)
and the earth.” From that, we can understand
that our whole Solar System was created by
God, and if that, the stars. How many
creations that took, we have no way of
knowing.
In Isa_45:12,
God says, “I have made the earth, and created
man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched
out the heavens, and all their host have I
commanded.”
Isa_45:18
says, “For thus saith the LORD that created the
heavens; God himself that formed the earth and
made it; he hath established it, he created it
not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited”. We
know the dinosaurs inhabited the Earth before
Adam was created. However, something happened to
the early Earth. It’s surface had to be renewed.
The land was drowned in the water.
Gen 1:2,3
says, “And the earth was (lit., became)
without form, and void (lit., waste and
desolation); and darkness was upon the face of
the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the
face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let
there be light: and there was light.” Psa 104:30
says, “Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are
created (bara): and thou renewest the face of
the earth.”
I think Earth and Mars got
hit hard by asteroids when Satan’s planet
Rahab was split into pieces. Mars has a huge
black scar. Isa 51:9 says,
“Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the
LORD (i.e., Christ, Isa 53:1,2); awake, as in
the ancient days, in the generations of old.
Art thou not it that hath cut (lit., split)
Rahab, and wounded the dragon?” The asteroid
that hit the Earth blasted the Moon material
off into space and created our Pacific Basin.
The Moon material almost all came from the
Earth. Gen 1:9 says, “And God said, Let the
waters under the heaven be gathered together
unto one place (i.e., in the Pacific Basin),
and let the dry land appear: and it was so.”
The land was drowned in water until then.
“The proportion of 50Ti
to 47Ti is another good indicator
of whether a sample came from Earth, and, just
as with oxygen, the researchers found the moon’s proportion was
effectively the same as Earth’s and
different from elsewhere in the solar system. “...we find that the
50Ti/47Ti ratio of the
Moon is identical to that of the Earth within
about four parts per million, which is only
1/150 of the isotopic range documented in
meteorites. The isotopic homogeneity of this
highly refractory element suggests that lunar
material was derived from the proto-Earth
mantle, an origin that could be explained by
efficient impact ejection”.
The angels
may have been tried on Earth before it became
covered with water, or they might have been
tried on Satan’s planet Rahab, or on both. Both
were hurt. Rahab split apart and Earth became
waste and desolation. The fallen angels were
obviously judged and sentenced to prison. Mt
8:29 says, “And, behold, they cried out, saying,
What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of
God? art thou come hither to torment us before
the time?” It seems that Satan appealed the
sentence. Therefore, they have been given a
certain amount of time to try to win the Angelic
Conflict and prove their point. It looks like
Satan knew there was no need to continue the
Mayan Calendar beyond Dec 21, 2012, because at
that time, or near that time, he would be
allowed to enter into the False Prophet, maybe
at Mid-Trib, Nov 8 or 9, 2012. Therefore, he
knew how much time he had been alotted from the
beginning.
Of when God created man in Adam’s
day, Gen_1:27 says, “So God created (bara) man
in his own image, in the image of God created
he him; male and female created he them.” All
mankind from that moment on were born of
women. Gen_5:1 says, “This is the book of the
GENERATIONS OF ADAM”, not Adam and someone
else, just Adam. Therefore, I
cannot accept that Cain and Abel were of
different fathers. I can only accept what
the Bible tells me.
Giants are not mentioned until
Gen 6. I don’t worry about the fallen angels
being called sons of God. They were
individually created by God, so they are
rightfully called God’s sons.
Job is the oldest
book in the Bible. Job 1:6-8 says,”Now there was
a day when the SONS OF GOD came to present
themselves before the LORD, AND SATAN CAME ALSO
AMONG THEM. 7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence
comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and
said, From going to and fro in the earth, and
from walking up and down in it. 8 And the LORD
said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant
Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a
perfect and an upright man, one that feareth
God, and escheweth evil?”
Therefore,
not only the fallen angels that left their own
estate and took wives from among mankind are
called “sons of God,” Satan is called a “son
of God.”
> > I concluded that
the mark of Cain was one of size, and
that God made him a giant as
protection, no one said a word about
that.
However, the Bible does not
say that. Cain
was the son of Adam and Eve, the same as
Seth. Later, the fallen angels begat
giants to try to keep Jesus from being
fully man and fully God, but it was a
lost cause. No one can beat our
omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent God,
and they are foolish to try, but Satan
tries anyway. He is that desperate to
avoid going to prison for his past sins.
Man
may have been created to show Satan a
few things. Satan was created able to
see God, and he failed his test. If man,
created not able to see God, could pass
his test, God would be faithful and just
to put Satan and the fallen angels in
prison. One of the attributes of God is
that he is perfectly just. In the end,
what Satan deserves, he will get. What
we deserve, we will get, unless we
accept Christ as our own personal
Saviour. The rules have all been written
down. If we fail, it will be our own
fault for not reading the rules, or by
disobeying them. Satan has some powerful
reason to want us to fail our test.
Good
luck in your studies.
Agape,
Marilyn Agee