Hi:
> > In "The Four Living Ones" which you
suppled, the author concludes, because the four
living beings are strongly related to the 24 elders,
that they represent some element of humanity. At the
end of his article he mentions the man-child and I
think that these living beings represent the
spiritual nature of those he described thusly...
> > "Those overcoming manchild saints had
loved not their lives unto the death. That doesn't
mean they all died. That just means they valued
their life so little that if necessary they would
give it and, therefore, they overcame and were
caught up to that position."
> > This link from shamah-elim may help
further develop this theme...
> > http://shamah-elim.info/qa/q_joshua.htm
> > I do believe that the "four beings" are a
symbolic picture of the spirits of those who are the
closest to the Lord, the man-child company, those
with the Joshua nature. Why the many eyes, then? If
we can believe that eyes speak of judgments, per
shamah-elim, then I would conclude that it is the
fully surrendered lives of the man-child company
that judges those who are Father's people but who
would not fully surrender their lives. In other
words it is the man-child company who will BE the
judgment in the House of God.
> > How 'dat?
> > Bob (RJ2)
I have a
different take on this. To me, the four living
beings are symbolic. They are four lively things,
flying things, like our Earth might be drawn in a
cartoon as a globe with wings, because it flies.
It might have a circle attached to it because it
orbits in a circle.
It took me over 7 years
to figure out what the four cherubim in Gen 3:24
and Eze 1 and 10 represented. I read about an 18”
stack of books from BIOLA’s Seminary Collection
each week for seven years without finding out what
they were. I finally opened my Bible, put my hands
on it, and said, “Lord, you’re going to have to
show me.” I started looking up every word in
Strong’s Concordance. I got my first breakthrough
when I finally realized that the fire enfolding
itself was the Sun. The brightness was
sunshine. Verse 15 mentioned the Earth. Then
I began to understand Ezekiel’s visions. They were
symbolic, like cartoons. Earth had wings, because
it could fly. It had a wheel, because it orbited.
In Gen 3:24, the
cherubim are planets, and the flaming sword that
turns every way is the asteroid Wormwood that will
impact Earth on the Day of God’s Wrath.
In Ezekiel, they are the
four terrestrial planets in concentric orbits
around the blazing Sun. Gen 3:24 says, “So he
drove out the man; and he placed at the east of
the garden of Eden Cherubims (planets), and a
flaming sword (the asteroid that Satan lives on,
Wormwood) which turned every way (rotated and
orbited), to keep the way of (or to) the tree of
life” (on Saturn). Bear with me, I’ll get to
the four beings in a minute. These things tie
together.
One of the cherubim
is the Earth. Eze 1:15 says, “Now as I
beheld the living creatures (i.e., the lively flying
things), behold one wheel (orbit) upon the EARTH by
the living creatures, with his four faces.” The four
faces of the Earth are said to be those of a man,
lion, ox, and eagle. Those same faces were on
the flags put at the cardinal directions, east,
south, west and north, around the Tabernacle.
Eze 1:10 says, “As for the likeness of
their faces, they four had the face of a man
(south), and the face of a lion (east), on the right
side: and they four had the face of an ox (west) on
the left side; they four also had the face of an
eagle” (north).
If the Earth has four
faces, Saturn has four faces. Both orbit in a circle
around the Sun. As they orbit, they face the four
cardinal directions, east, south, west and north.
Keep in mind that
stars sing. Job_38:7 says, “ When the morning stars
sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for
joy?
The Sun, Moon and stars praise the Lord.
Psa_148:3 says, “Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise
him, all ye stars of light.”
Isa 6:1-3 says, “In the year that
king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a
throne (i.e., on Saturn), high and lifted up, and
his train filled the temple.
Isa 6:2 Above it stood the
seraphims: (Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto) each
one had six wings; with twain he covered his face,
and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain
he did fly.
Isa 6:3 And one cried unto
another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of
hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.”
Now, let’s go to Revelation
4.
Rev 4:1-11 says, “After this I
looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven:
and the first voice which I heard was as it were of
a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up
hither, and I will shew thee things which must be
hereafter (i.e., after the First-Trump Rapture). 2 And immediately I was (lit.,
became) in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set
in heaven, and one (the God/man, Jesus Christ)) sat
on the throne (i.e., on Saturn, the 3rd heaven Paul
was caught up to in II Cor 12:1-4,i.e., 1. Mars, 2,
Jupiter, 3. Saturn). 3
And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper
(first stone in the breastplate) and a sardine stone
(last stone in the breastplate, i.e., Jesus is the
first and the last, LORD of the Old Testament an
Lord of the New Testament): and there was a rainbow
(i.e., Saturn’s rings) round about the throne, in
sight like unto an emerald (Judah’s stone in the
breastplate, Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of
Judah). 4 And round
about the throne were four and twenty seats (lit.,
thrones): and upon the seats I saw four and twenty
elders (i.e., John, the other 11 apostles and 12
patriarchs of Israel) sitting, clothed in white
raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
5 And out of the throne
proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and
there were seven LAMPS OF FIRE burning before the
throne (1. Sun, 2. Mercury, 3. Venus, 4. Earth, 5.
Mars, 6. Rahab [Satan’s former planet, now the
Asteroid Belt], and 7. Jupiter) which are the seven
Spirits (pneuma, breaths) of God” (i.e., God
breathed things, or God created things). 6 And before the throne there was a
sea of glass like unto crystal (i.e., Saturn’s rings
are made up mostly of ice crystals): and in the
midst of the throne, and round about the throne,
were four beasts full of eyes (full orbs, globes)
before and behind. 7
And the first beast was like a lion (i.e., east),
and the second beast like a calf (or ox, west), and
the third beast had a face as a man (south), and the
fourth beast was like a flying eagle (north). 8 And the four beasts (lively things)
had each of them six wings about him (i.e., they
fly); and they were full of eyes within (they are
full orbs, globes): and they rest not day and night,
saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which
was, and is, and is to come (i.e., God’s wonderful
creation demonstrates his love, goodness, knowledge,
power and his right to receive the respect of all
his creation) . 9 And
when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks
to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever
and ever, 10 The four
and twenty elders (12 patriarchs and 12 apostles of
Israel) fall down before him (Jesus Christ) that sat
on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever
and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne,
saying, 11 Thou art
worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and
power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy
pleasure they are and were created.”
Agape,
Marilyn Agee