From: Marilyn Agee
Re: Brian Lakins: "You Will Appreciate This (Rapture 2012)"
Hi:
> > “And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be
saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened (Mat.24:22).”
The persecution itself will be cut short, not the 1260 days themselves.
If it were the days themselves, then why would God tell Daniel 1260 days? Did God change His
foreknowledge or mind many hundreds of years after He spoke to Daniel when Jesus spoke these
words? If so, then Jesus would have changed His mind back to what He told Daniel when He spoke to
John some 6 decades after He taught Mark 13:20 & Matthew 24:22 as seen from these verses: (Rev.
11:1-3; 12:6, 14; 13:5; Dan. 12:7). The persecution will be cut short, not the 1260 days themselves.
> > we have to guess about the additional 110 days making up the 1,260 days of the whole period.
I think the 1260-day period is estimated time, meaning 3.5 years, a space that is also called a time, and times and the dividing of time. In estimated time, even today, there are only 30-day months, 12-month years, and 360-day years. The Hebrews actually had some 29-day months, a 13-month year in a leap year, and 353, 354, 355, 383, 384, or 385 day years. Even the average number of days in an actual year is 369.
It seems to me that the 2300-day period is actual time. It is amazing to find out that it stretches from Pentecost, May 29, 2009, to the Feast of Trumpets, Sept 14, 2015 by inclusive reckoning, because it is a block of time. That seems too perfect to be estimated time. I think the Lord designed it this way to show us when the Tribulation begins and ends. It just drops into place to lock in the end times.
I think Sept 14, 2015 is the Day of God’s Wrath and the great and terrible Day of the Lord. The Jubilee Year should be announced on the Day of Atonement, Sept 23, 2015 and start on Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016. The tetrad eclipses are in 2014 and 2015. That locks in that time too. The Jubilee must be preceded by a Sabbatic Year, and 5775 is Sabbatic. It works out perfectly. 1967 + 50 = 2017. The Jubilee would start on Nisan 1, 5776 and end on Nisan 1, 5777. Seven is God’s number of perfection and completion. That is fitting.
6th of Sivan, 5768 = Mon, 9 June 2008 + 2300 days, IR = Thurs, September 25, 2014, Feast of Trumpets
6th of Sivan, 5769 = Fri, 29 May 2009 + 2300 days, IR = Mon, 14 September 2015, Feast of Trumpets
6th of Sivan, 5770 = Wed, 19 May 2010 + 2300 days, IR = Sat, September 3, 2016, not Trumpets
6th of Sivan, 5771 = Wed, 8 June 2011 + 2300 days, IR = Sat, September 23, 2017, not Trumpets
6th of Sivan, 5772 = Sun, 27 May 2012 + 2300 days, IR = Wed, September 12, 2018, not Trumpets
6th of Sivan, 5773 = Wed, 15 May 2013 + 2300 days, IR = Sat, August 31, 2019, not Trumpets
6th of Sivan, 5774 = Wed, 4 June 2014 + 2300 days, IR = Sat, September 19, 2020, Feast of Trumpets
Feast of Trumpets:
1st of Tishrei, 5773 = Mon, 17 September 2012
1st of Tishrei, 5774 = Thu, 5 September 2013
1st of Tishrei, 5775 = Thu, 25 September 2014
1st of Tishrei, 5776 = Mon, 14 September 2015
1st of Tishrei, 5777 = Mon, 3 October 2016
1st of Tishrei, 5778 = Thu, 21 September 2017
1st of Tishrei, 5779 = Mon, 10 September 2018
1st of Tishrei, 5780 = Mon, 30 September 2019
1st of Tishrei, 5781 = Sat, 19 September 2020
This won’t matter to you, but it does to me. Our son was born on April 6, Crucifixion Day on the Julian Calendar, and our daughter was born on May 29, the first day of the Tribulation. My husband Ed’s birthday was March 29, so I tried to have Dave born on his birthday. I dug post holes and built a fence around our front yard, but he wasn’t born until April 6. We were going to name him Brian, but he didn’t look like a Brian to me. I had thought of Brian being a helpless little 7.5 lb. baby like his sister. This boy just lacked 4 oz of being 10 lbs. Put down on his stomach, he managed to turn over on his back. David flew into my mind. We named him David, which ties in, because Jesus is the son of David, a mighty man. Dave named his son Brian.
What is a spiritual body like? Jesus could be touched late in the day on Resurrection Sunday. He was clothed. How can a spiritual body support clothing?Yet, he could go through a wall. How could the clothing pass through the wall? On Ascension Day, Jesus was obviously clothed, so I think we will be at the Rapture. Somewhere along the way, we should get white robes, and become young again. When? by the time we meet the resurrected dead in the clouds, will we both have resurrection bodies and be young again?
In both the Preview of the Rapture on Sunday in Rev 1:9 and the First-Trump Rapture in Rev 4:1, John became in the spirit. Yet, when he sat on his throne with the other elders, he was obviously clothed, and he didn’t fall through the throne and hit the ground. Do you have any insight on what we will be like at the Rapture, when we become in the spirit?
> > I do agree that the Two Witnesses' ministry is the last half of the 70th Week, but Enoch, not Moses
That’s ok. You are in good company. However, why did the Lord make Moses climb Mt. Sinai on Pentecost only to tell him to GO DOWN?
> > The days will not be shortened and I stated this in the study I sent you:
I’m sorry that I didn’t read everything you sent before answering. I have cataracts on both eyes and the sunshine yellow pages blind me. I just wanted to get some important news to you before I waded through it all.
BELOW IS YOUR TIMELINE, BRIAN. You skipped from March 16 to September 16, 2012. What I sent you applies to April 8, Firstfruits (Resurrection of Jesus), May 17, Ascension Day (Rapture of Jesus) and May 27, Pentecost (pouring out of the Holy Spirit). Keep in mind that Job 11:6 says, “the secrets of wisdom, that they are double to that which is!” I think Jesus acted out the Rapture for us. Daniel 12:10 says, “none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.” I hope we are both in the wise category.
> >
I. 2012 – 2019 Timeline
> >
A. September 16 -18, 2012
> > 1. The rapture of the church on Feast of Trumpets
> > 2. 54 – 56 days from the beginning of the 7 year Tribulation
> > 3. No children will be left behind
> > B. 54 – 56 Days
> > 1. Time for the great deception of visible UFO’s and aliens (demonic origins) (2
> > Thes.2:7-12)
> > 2. The beginning of the great revival due to the Rapture (Acts 2:16-21; Joel 2:28-
> > 29; Rev. 6:9-11; 7:1-17; 15:2-4)
> > 3. The Beast rises from the Abyss in order to cause the rise of the Antichrist out of
> > the 10 kingdoms
> > 4. The Antichrist to be demonically thrust into position to sign the 7 year peace
> > treaty with Israel (Dan.9:27; couple with Dan.7:21-25; 8:9-14, 22-25; 11:36-45; Mat.
> > 24:15-24; 1 Thess.5:1-5; 2 Thess. 2:3-4; Rev. 13:1-18)
> > C. November 9, 2012
> > 1. The beginning of the 7 year tribulation
> > 2. The beginning of the 144,000’s (Jewish first fruits of God) ministry who have all
> > been sealed on or by this day (Rev.7:1-8; 9:4; 14:1-5)
> > 3. Antichrist signs the 7 year peace treaty with Israel (Dan.9:27)
> > 4. From this point on the earth will experience the plagues and judgments of God,
> > possibly by the use of Planet X (also called Nibiru and Wormwood) (Rev.8-9). It will
> > pass by the earth which will cause much of the destruction due to the gravitational pull
> > and pole shift of the earth
> > D. December 21, 2012
> > 1. The Galactic Alignment that takes place once every 26,000 years where the
> > eclipse of the Milky Way by the conjunction of the sun, earth and the Milky Way will
> > dawn an end of an age as well as a new age upon man (Gen.1:14)
> > E. November 9, 2012 – April 22, 2016
> > 1. The temple will be rebuilt in late 2012 – early 2013 in Jerusalem
> > 2. The fulfillment of Revelation 6:12 that brings a mega earthquake during what
> > appears to be a blood red moon, though none will occur until spring of 2014 and
> > Revelation 6:12 appears to be very close to the beginning of the Tribulation. Perhaps
> > Planet X or one of its moons will cause this, or even the alignment on December 21,
> > 2012.
> > 3. Planet X will pass and cause Revelation 8 to unfold. This will be before the
> > invasion of the army listed next that will fulfill Revelation 9.
> > 4. The invasion of the demonic army of 200 million will occur before the middle of
> > the Tribulation (Rev.9:14-20). This appears to be closer to 2014 – 2016.
> > F. April 22, 2016
> > 1. Passover begins
> > 2. The beginning of the Great Tribulation
> > 3. 3 ½ years after the rapture & 3 ½ years before the Second Coming
> > 4. The rapture of the 144,000 within days before the beginning of the Great
> > Tribulation (Rev.12:5; 14:1-5)
> > 5. The Antichrist breaks covenant with Israel and takes over Jerusalem with his
> > armies as his new headquarters
> > 6. The Antichrist stops the sacrifices in the new temple in Jerusalem
> > 7. The Antichrist declares himself to be God
> > 8. Israel flees to the wilderness
> > 9. Final war in heaven when Satan is kicked out forever, but cast to earth
> > 10. Beginning of the ministry of the 2 Witnesses for the next 1260 days
> > G. June 16, 2019
> > 1. The end of the 2,300 evenings and mornings of the ceased sacrifices
> > 2. Jerusalem is recaptured by Israel while Antichrist and his armies are taking
> > control of Russia and Germany
> > H. October 4, 2019
> > 1. The end of the 1,260th day of the Great Tribulation
> > 2. 2 Witnesses are killed
> > 3. People of the earth rejoice and make merry for 3 ½ days.
> > I. October 8, 2019
> > 1. The 2 Witnesses are resurrected and raptured to complete the first resurrection
> > that Jesus was first in, the resurrected and raptured Old Testament saints and church age
> > beliers were second in, the 144,000 were third in, and the tribulations saints were forth in
> > within days before the 2 Witnesses
> > 2. The Second Coming of Christ and all saints of all times and all holy angels in
> > order to retake the earth in order to re-establish it in holiness during the Millennium in
> > order for God to set His throne on earth and live with man forever
> > 3. Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement)
> > 4. Israel restored in holiness by repentance and faith in the Son of God, Jesus the
> > Messiah, who they visibly will see (Not ironically on the 40th and last day of the 40 days
> > of Teshuvah and the days of Awe).
> > J. October 13, 2019
> > 1. Sukkot (the Feast of Tabernacles)
> > 2. The first gathering of representatives to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord
> > of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles yearly (Zech. 14:16)
> > K. November 3, 2019
> > 1. The end of the 1,290th day (Dan.12:11)
> > L. December 18, 2019
> > 1. The end of the 1,335th day (Dan.12:12)
> > M. October 8, 2019 – December 18, 2019
> > 1. The battle of Armageddon (Joel 3; Zech. 14; Rev. 19:11-21)
> > 2. Burial of the dead begun (Ezekiel 39:8-22)
> > 3. Great earthquake and splitting of the Mount of Olives (Zech. 14:1-5)
> > 4. Rounding up of the prisoners of the armies of Antichrist and disposition
> > of them (Ezekiel 39:2)
> > 5. Rounding up and casting of Satan and every demon and fallen angel into
> > the abyss (Isaiah 24:21-22; Rev. 20:1-3)
> > 6. Gathering of Israel by the angels (Isaiah 11:10-12; Matthew 24:31)
> > 7. Gathering of the nations to judgment (Matthew 25:31-46)
> > 8. Separation of the tares and wheat (Matthew 13:39-50)
> > 9. Cleansing Jerusalem and beginning its rebuilding for the eternal kingdom
> > (Ezekiel 48)
> > 10. Rounding up of all beast worshipers and all who have the mark of the
> > beast to be sent to hell (Rev. 14:9-11)
> > 11. Erection of the millennial temple (Ezekiel 40-46; Zech. 6:12-13)
> > 12. Sending out the resurrected saints as the new earth rulers to take over
> > every inhabited part of the earth (Daniel 7:18,27; 1 Cor. 6:2; Rev. 5:10; Rev.
> > 11:15; Rev. 22:4-5)
> > 13. Sending out missionaries from Jerusalem to evangelize the nations (Isaiah
> > 2:2-4; Isaiah 11:9; Isaiah 52:7; Zech. 8:23)
> > 14. Establishing government offices in every part of the earth and publishing
> > the new laws of the kingdom of heaven on earth (Isaiah 2:2-4)
> > 15. Division of the promised land into 12 strips and the settlement of the 12
> > tribes in their portions (Ezekiel 48)
> > 16. Settling of the nations in their own portions of the earth (Deut. 32:8; Acts
> > 17:26)
> > 17. Opening of the earth and starting of the Millennial river (Ezekiel 47)
> > 18. All necessary work in making the deserts blossom as a rose, waters to
spring forth in the deserts, changing the animals, regulating the solar system as it
was before the fall, and many other events that will continue throughout the
Millennium and new earth forever
My goodness. How could two people study the same Bible, and both starting with the Rapture in 2012, get so far apart? No wonder you said, “Sorry, but I do not agree with any of it.” However, the wise shall understand, and I am hoping you will understand before May 17.
LET’S START OVER WITH THE LORD’S SIGNS, THE ECLIPSE TETRADS ON PASSOVER AND TABERNACLES, AND REASON THIS OUT
“A tetrad of lunar eclipses on feast days has only occurred two times in the last 500 years; 1949/50, and 1967/68.” (endtimesforecaster.blogspot.com/.../lunar-and-solar-eclipses-of-2014...)
Two more will come in 2014 and 2015. Then there will be no more that fall on feast days this century. I think this is the Lord’s doings. Do you?
The Jews obtained the right to return to their land when the Balfour Declaration was signed in 1917. I think that was also the Lord’s doings. Forty-nine years from 1917 is 1966. The Jubilee would then be 1967. Therefore, I think the Six-Day War of 1967 was a milestone in God’s plan for the end of the age. Do we agree on that?
Adding 49 years to 1966 is 2015. The Jubilee would then be 2016, starting on the Sabbath Day, Nisan 1, 5776 (Sat. April 9, 2016). It has to be preceded by a Sabbatic Year, and 5775 is Sabbatic. Jesus said he was Lord of the Sabbath. Nisan 1, 5776 is the first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee years. Do we agree on that? If so, that is our foundation to build on.
Of course, Jesus is our true foundation. I think he will return at the Second Advent on the first day of the Jubilee Year. How could it be otherwise? The Israelites are to be returned to their land in the Jubilee Year. Daniel will stand in his plot of land in Israel on the 1335th day (Dan 12:12,13).
Nisan 1, 5766 is Saturday, April 9, 2016. The coming Jubilee would have been announced on the Day of Atonement, Tishri 10, 5776 (Wed. Sept 23, 2015), 10 days after the Day of God’s Wrath on Tishri 1, 5776, Mon. Sept 14, 2015 (1040 days after Nov 8/9, 2012, by Inclusive Reckoning). Because all walls will fall on Trumpets, the Israelites would have lived in hastily-built booths on Tabernacles, Mon. Sept 28, 2015.
There are two more tetrads that fall on feast day to consider. They are in 2014 and 2015. Therefore, I think the Lord is showing us that the events between the Day of God’s Wrath and the Second Advent run from the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776 (Mon. Sept 14, 2015) and Nisan 1, 5776 (Sat. April 9, 2016). The year 5776 is a leap year with the 13th month. That is why 30 days are added to the count in Dan 12:11. To me, this locks in these dates, and the wise shall understand is in Dan 12:10.
Dan 12:10,11 says, “Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up (Mid-Trib), there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.”
BELOW, ON A DATE WE BOTH RECOGNIZE, WE HAVE JUMPED 1260 DAYS APART AND WE ARE ONLY TO NEXT NOVEMBER
> > C. November 9, 2012
> > 1. The beginning of the 7 year tribulation
I think Nov 8/9, 2012 is the beginning of the 1040-day Great Tribulation (2300 days total from May 29, 2009, Pentecost, by Inclusive Reckoning) that ends on Tishri 1, 5776, Mon. Sept 14, 2015.
Is there any way that we can get on the same page this far? Do you agree with any of this? What about the Jubilee"? I think we are limited by the Jubilee. I think it has to run from Nisan 1, 2016 to Nisan 1, 2017, and 1967 + 50 = 2017. How can you expect the two witnesses to be killed in 2019?
Agape,
Marilyn Agee
mjagee@verizon.net
From: Brian Lakins
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:03 PM
To: mjagee@verizon.net
Subject: Re: "You Will Appreciate This (Rapture 2012)"
Sorry, but I do not agree with any of it. The days will not be shortened and I stated this in the study I sent you:
http://conditionalsalvation.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/DAYS_SHORTENED.69191029.pdf
I do not believe we are in the 70th Week and this will tell you the dates I believe are coming:
http://conditionalsalvation.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/2012-2019_Timeline_For_Major_Events.7032959.pdf
I do agree that the Two Witnesses' ministry is the last half of the 70th Week, but Enoch, not Moses
http://conditionalsalvation.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/Two_Witnesses.6211022.pdf
I do believe that Jesus is coming to the air with all saints in heaven so they can be resurrected in their glorified bodies and a VERY short moment later the living in Christ will be raptured and changed together with the Old Testament and church age saints and taken immediately back to heaven for 7 years. I do not believe in the 40 days of walking the earth theory or any variation of that. Here is everything I believe concerning the rapture:
I do believe the temple will be rebuilt, but it will be desecrated at the beginning of the Great Tribulation, or the mid point of the 70th Week on Passover of 2016. The sacrifices will be cut off at that point that had been going on since the end of 2012 or beginning of 2013.
The 2300 day time passage must be understood as 1150 mornings and 1150 evenings.
At the end of the 2,300 evenings and mornings (3 years, 2 months, and 10 days; Dan. 8:11-13,26) the sanctuary shall be cleansed of the abomination of desolation (Dan. 8:13-14; 9:27; 11:45; 12:11; Mt. 24:15; 2Th. 2:4; Rev. 13:11-18). No scripture says that the abomination of desolation will actually be in the temple 1,260 days. So, if Dan. 8:14 says the daily sacrifices will be taken away after 2,300 evenings and mornings this settles the question, and we have to guess about the additional 110 days making up the 1,260 days of the whole period.
[daily sacrifice] This refers to the daily offerings and animal sacrifices of the Jewish temple (Dan. 11:31; 12:11; Num. 4:16; 28:24; 29:6; Ezra 3:4; Ezek. 45:23). The passage cannot be fulfilled until the Jews have a temple in Jerusalem and begin to offer such sacrifices again. It could not refer to the past, for it has a latter-day fulfillment (Dan. 8:19,23-25; 9:27; 11:40-45; Dan. 12; Mt. 24:15-31; 2Th. 2:1-12; Rev. 13 and Rev. 17).
Four Main Subjects of the Vision of Daniel 8:13-14
1. The daily sacrifice cut off (Dan. 8:11-14)
2. The transgression of desolation (Dan. 8:13; 9:27; 11:45; Mt. 24:15; 2Th. 2:4; Rev. 13)
3. The sanctuary to be trodden underfoot (Dan. 8:13; 9:27; 11:45; 2Th. 2:4; Rev. 11:1-3)
4. The host to be trodden underfoot (Dan. 8:13)
All time passages from Daniel and Revelation of 3.5 years, 42 months, time, times and half of time all refer to the last 3.5 years of the 70th Week. If Jesus changed what God the Father told Daniel by saying the days would be shortened and meaning that the time of Jacob's Trouble would now be less that 1260 days long, then Jesus changed it back about 6 decades later when He told John what to write down in Revelation.
All of this and so much more is in the link I sent you yesterday. I hope you really dive in and disect and digest it.
www.conditionalsalvation.com/rapture_2012
Maranatha,
Brian Paul Lakins
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:24 AM, <mjagee@verizon.net> wrote:
From: Marilyn Agee
Re: email I received: “You Will Appreciate This (Rapture 2012)”
www.conditionalsalvation.com/rapture_2012
Hi:
You are right. I would appreciate the Rapture in 2012, and I think it will be.
I can hardly wait.
However, instead of the Rapture being on the Feast of Trumpets, I think the
dead in Christ will be resurrected on Resurrection Day, Sunday/Easter/Firstfruits/
Omer 1/Nisan 16/April 8, 2012, and the Rapture ascension will be on Ascension
Day/Thursday/Omer 40/Iyar 25/May 17, 2012.
Why do I think the First-Trump Rapture will not be on the Feast of Trumpets?
I think the Last - Trump Rapture will be on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 14, 2015.
That would be 7 months before the Second Advent on Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016.
as in Daniel 12:11. The extra 30 days show us that the last year is a Leap Year, and
5776 is a Leap Year.
The word of the Lord in Job 11:6 says, “that he (the Lord) would shew
thee the secrets of wisdom, that THEY ARE DOUBLE TO THAT WHICH IS!”
In 30 AD, Jesus and some other saints came out of their graves and
were seen in Jerusalem on Easter/Sunday/Firstfruits /Omer 1/Nisan 16/April 9.
In 2012, Resurrection Day is Easter/Sunday/Firstfruits/Omer 1/Nisan 16/April 8.
In 30 AD, Jesus ascended on Ascension Day/Thurs/Omer 40/Iyar 25/May 18.
In 2012, our Ascension Day could be on Thurs / Omer 40 / Iyar 25 / May 17.
In 30 AD, as a sort of Second Coming, Jesus was resurrected on April 9.
In 2016, I think the Second Advent will be on Sat. Nisan 1, 5776, April 9.
That Sabbath will be the first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee years.
A Jubilee year is preceded by a Sabbatical Year, and 5775 is Sabbatic.
It all fits. In Dan 8:13,14, the shortened Tribulation is actually 2300 days, not 2520,
which are estimated time. The last half of the Tribulation is to be shortened. That
would be 1260 + 1040 = 2300 days. Tishri 1, 5776 - 1040 = Nov 8, 2012, Mid-Trib.
If the Rapture is on Ascension Day, May 17, 2012, there would be time to build the
Temple by Mid-Trib. If the Rapture was on Trumpets, there would not be time to
build it by Mid-Trib. It takes 3 months.
I think the Holy Spirit will be poured out on the 144,000 Israelites and the foolish
virgins on Pentecost, May 27, 2012. I also expect Moses and Elijah to come down
that day. In Exodus 19:21, the Lord told Moses to “go down” on Pentecost. The Holy
Spirit will see that the Temple gets built.
Before Moses is to go down in Ex 19:4, the Lord said, “Ye have seen what I did unto
the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself.”
That is past tense. I think that is a clue for the Rapture. Israel went to Mt. Sinai on
foot. They didn’t fly, but we will, probably on Ascension Day, 10 days before
Pentecost.
Do you agree with these dates?
Agape,
Marilyn Agee
mjagee@verizon.net
______________________________________________________________________
From: Brian Lakins
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:10 PM
To: mjagee@verizon.net
Subject: You Will Appreciate This (Rapture 2012)
www.conditionalsalvation.com/rapture_2012
The outline lays out all areas of study and are even linked to the research itself and the subpages. It is very organized and simple research that all point to this generation, this year (2012), and this fall (feast of trumpets); Simple research, but lots of it.