Josh List (1 March 2012)
"Mike W"


 
Brother, please don't lecture me about how I'm trusting in the Lord.  Nothing I said had anything to do with being "good enough".  This is not about trying to gain enough points to score a passing grade.  In the kingdom, it's either an A+ or an -F.  You make it seem like I am at a C and squeezing out extra credit to regain an  A+ status and that's simply not true.  The simplicity of this argument goes like this: Do what Jesus said (first by trusting in him, then following his commands) and  get an A, don't do what he says equals failure.  You are teaching extreme grace.  That a believer can continue on in his sins and make it to heaven because he said a prayer many years ago.  Next thing  you tell me is that it's not necessary to ask for forgiveness because Jesus already paid for my past, present, and future sins so why ask him for money when you've already gotten the gold.  Work out your salvation with fear and trembling, not with pride and arrogance.    It's the same old song with believers who believe in OSAS.  Tell them what the Lord tells them to do, and they automatically think you're trying to preach works based salvation.
 
It's really simple.  Jesus died so that we may have life.  The only reason we can even get the chance to go to heaven is because of the cross. You risk being spewed out of his mouth if you are lukewarm or don't follow what he told us to do.    Being good enough is not what I'm preaching. I'm preaching obedience after salvation.  A good tree cannot produce bad fruit.  How then can a believer say they serve the Lord when they're gossipers and slanderers?  Is that not bad fruit?  Again, how can a good tree produce bad fruit?    Can a person claim they belong to Jesus and do the very things that render him a son of satan?  You say the argument is not that easy, I say it is.  Brother, if I am wrong i can still make it to heaven because my sin is ignored.  If you are wrong, you risk losing it all because of disobedience.
 
Trust Him,
 
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