Mr. Warner, re your post:
Again sir, I believe you are preaching from a replacement
theological position and are in error.
Revelation 12:1 says:
"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman
clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on
her head a crown of twelve stars:"
This is Israel, NOT the church.
Revelation 12: 5:
"And she brought forth a male child, who was to
rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her
child was caught up unto God, and to his throne."
Revelation 19:15
"Out of HIS mouth comes a sharp sword with which to
strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an
iron scepter." He treads the winepress of the
fury of the wrath of God Almighty."
Psalm 2:9,
"You shall break them with a rod of iron;
you shall dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel."
This is speaking of the Messiah, NOT the church.
Why would there be warning to believers to leave Israel
if they had already been or about to be raptured?
Revelation 12:6,
"And the woman (Israel) fled into
the wilderness, where she has a place
prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand
two hundred and three score days."
THIS verse is a warning to the people of Israel to flee
during the Great Tribulation, Jacob's Trouble:
The believers need no place to flee to because they are
GONE.
This verse if for the newly saved nation of Israel!:
Zechariah 12:10, 12, 13
"And I will pour on the house of David,
and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the
spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall
look on Me whom they have pierced, and they
shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for his only son, and
shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness
for his firstborn....And the land (Israel)
shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the
house of David (King) apart, and their wives
apart; the family of the house of Nathan
(prophet) apart, and their wives apart; The family of the house
of Levi (Priest) apart, and their wives apart;
the family of Shimei (The Jewish people as
a whole) apart, and their wives apart;"
The Great Tribulation, Jacobs Trouble will have
begun but he will be saved out of it!
Jeremiah 30:7,
"Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it
is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved
out of it."
The church age will be over.
God will turn His face BACK to Israel and keep His
promise to Abraham.
THIS verse below is about ANOTHER EVENT:
Luke 21:22, 23
"For these be the days of vengeance, that all things
which are written may be fulfilled. But woe to them that are
with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for
there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath on this
people. "
Jesus is speaking here in this part of Luke 21 of
the destruction of the temple about to happen in A.D.
70.
This was the judgement upon THAT
generation who had been in His company, seen His immediate
miracles and rejected Him.
Israel, just like YOU AND I had received grace, are
about to receive THEIR portion of the saving grace of Jesus
the Messiah that YOU AND I received when YOU AND I accepted
Him as Lord and Savior!
Romans 11:25, 26
"For I would not, brothers, that you should be ignorant
of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your
own conceits; that blindness in part is happened
to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be
come in. And so all Israel
shall be saved: as it is written, There
shall come out of Zion the Deliverer, and shall turn
away ungodliness from Jacob."
Waiting for Him!
JD Siegel