Donna Danna (24 March 2012)
"REPLY TO ARLENE -- Two Witnesses & Woman Who Flees Into THE Wilderness"


Hi Arlene,
 
This is in reply to the paragraph in your 3/23 post at http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2012/arlene323.htm that says the following:
 
"So, then, perhaps the whole of the (two) witnesses are the true Bible Doctrines going throughout the world during this time by all the selected people whom God chooses to remain behind. Most will be killed during this time and not allowed to be buried...but all will be resurrected prior to the short time of God's wrath at the end of the 1260 days. And then, at the Second Coming, ALL "Israel" shall be saved....all Israel means all of the saved through all the ages. This includes those believing in the "hope" of the Messiah by faith and obedience in the OT, and those who believe by faith and works in the NT."
 
Please consider first that in Rev. 11:3-12, we find that the two witnesses are clothed in sackcloth in verse 3.  In verse 5 if any man hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth and devoureth their enemies: and if any man hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.  In verse 7, the two witnesses are killed after 42 months of testimony.  In verse 8, their dead bodies shall lie in the street.  In verse 9, all the people see their dead bodies for 3 1/2 days.  Then in verse 10 the two witnesses are called two prophets that tormented them that dwelt on earth.  Then in verse 11, after 3 1/2  days the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet.  In verse 12, the two witnesses are told, Come up hither, and they ascended up to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies beheld them.
 
Having read all that in the above paragraph, I think that the two witnesses are two men rather than being "the (two) witnesses are the true Bible Doctrines going throughout the world during this time by all the selected people whom God chooses to remain behind."  Will the true Bible doctrines (Old Testament & New Testament) be clothed in sackcloth in verse 3?  Will literal fire proceed from the mouth of the OT & NT to kill someone if someone hurts the OT & NT in verse 5?  Will the OT & NT be killed after 42 months of testimony in verse 7?  NO, because Jesus said in John 6:63, "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." Will the two witnesses who are called two prophets in verse 10 be two true Bible doctrines (OT & NT or two men)?  The OT & NT contain many prophetic books, but I think it is referring to two men.   Does the OT & NT have feet to stand on in verse 11?  Will the dead bodies of the OT & NT lie in the street for 3 1/2 days and be resurrected from the dead and ascend into heaven in verse 12?  The OT & NT can't be killed like two human beings can be killed so this is why I think that the two witnesses are two men rather than "the (two) witnesses are the true Bible Doctrines going throughout the world during this time by all the selected people whom God chooses to remain behind."  Of course, I realize that when you posted your article, Arlene, that you weren't imagining the Bible (OT & NT) as I pictured them in the above scenarios so I hope that it gives you a good chuckle. :)
 
In your post you also stated that "The fleeing "woman" symbolizes the church people who are left behind.....but they are still saved and are "spiritual Israel."  I wonder why the left behind church would be fed for 1260 days in the wilderness if she really is the fleeing woman.  If you read Matthew 24:48-51, the evil servant is appointed a portion with the hypocrites, and there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. It sounds like he is left behind in the great tribulation period.   In Luke 12:45-47, the unfaithful servant is appointed a portion with the unbelievers.  He is beaten with many stripes if he knew his lord's will, and prepared himself not (like the unrepentant Laodicean church).  To me, it doesn't sound like the unfaithful, left behind Laodicean church is the same woman that is being fed there in the wilderness for 1260 days.