Dear Doves,You, first, must accept as the truth what the Scriptures say in (Matthew 24:29) "Immediately after the tribulation of those days..." and in (Mark13:24) "But in those days following that tribulation..." .Then they both go on to describe the Day of the Lord rapture of the Church in (Matthew 24:30) "At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky..." and in (Mark 13:26) "At that time men will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds...."The phrase: "At that time" in (Matthew 24:30) and (Mark 13:26) both mean the rapture happens "at that time" "after" or "following" the "tribulation of those days". The phrase; "tribulation of those days" refers back to the tribulation that is described as "shortened and cut short" for the sake of the Church in (Matthew 24:21-22) and (Mark 13:20).Then they both go on to tell us the Parable of the Fig Tree in (Matthew 24:32) and (Mark 13:28) "I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened." That leaves no doubt that it is the rapture of the Church that is being discussed in these previous Scriptures.Therefore, the Scriptures tell us that the CHURCH IS RAPTURED AFTER THE TRIBULATION WHICH IS SHORTENED AND CUT SHORT for the Church only.Now you can understand the following Scriptures:Revelation 2:10"....you will have tribulation ten days.....and I will give you the crown of life." (We are given "the crown of life" at the time of our rapture after "ten days tribulation".)Revelation 7:13-15"These in white robes - who are they and where did they come from ? These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore they are before the throne of God and serve Him day and night in His temple."The Church, after being raptured out of the shortened and cut short great tribulation, is seen in heaven.Revelation 7:9"After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count from every nation, tribe, people and language standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and holding palm branches in their hands."The following Scripture describes a similar great multitude with palm branches whom, after being raised from the dead first at the rapture, join the rest of the raptured Church who are the great multitude holding palm branches and standing before the throne in heaven;John 12:12"The next day a great multitude that had come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem, took branches of palm trees and went out to meet Him.."The 'pre-trib rapture position' is proven to be a fable by the Scriptures.According to Your Word, come Lord Jesus!Bruce Warner