Gino (24 Mar 2024)
"Daniel 9 is not about the church"

Why do so many try to make Daniel's final week, especially the last half, also about the church, or some make it all about the church?

Daniel was Jewish, part of the captivity taken to Babylon:

Daniel 1:6 Now among these were of the children of Judah, Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah:

Daniel had been considering the prophecy given to Jeremiah, about the seventy year captivity:

Daniel 9:2 In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.

Daniel prayed on the behalf of the LORD's people, on behalf of the LORD's city Jerusalem, and on behalf of the LORD's holy mountain, the temple mount:

Daniel 9:4 And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;

  16 O Lord, according to all thy righteousness, I beseech thee, let thine anger and thy fury be turned away from thy city Jerusalem, thy holy mountain: because for our sins, and for the iniquities of our fathers, Jerusalem and thy people are become a reproach to all that are about us.

Daniel was not praying on behalf of a yet future church.

Then, while Daniel prayed as a result of considering the prophecy of seventy years captivity, Daniel received a new prophecy about a different seventy.
This time it was to be a prophecy about seventy weeks of years, seven times more years than the prophecy given to Jeremiah.
Both prophecies are about Daniel's people and Jerusalem:

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

There was to be two periods of pause, of not revealed length, in the seventy weeks of years.
The first pause was after 49 years, and the second pause after the death/burial/ascension of Messiah Jesus (the second pause continues even now):

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

  26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Then there is the description of the final week of years, the final seven years:

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Daniel had previously mentioned the covenant, as he began praying in line 4, in regard to his people and Jerusalem.
But many try to say that Gabriel suddenly switched gears, out of context, to change the meaning of "the covenant" in line 27, to a peace agreement, or a strong military agreement.
But then the angel giving the prophecy described in chapter 11, goes back to the original meaning of "the covenant": 

Daniel 11:22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.

  28 Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land.

  30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.

  32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

So, it is far more likely that "the covenant" in Daniel 9:27 is the same, involving the land, Jerusalem, the temple, and sacrifices.
Considering, again, chapter 11, that would indicate that Daniel 9:27 will, in the future, involve the anti-messiah, the antichrist.
Why would he originally attempt to confirm the covenant, with sacrifices and oblations, unless that is what the Jews are looking forward to being done.
However, they rejected when Jesus, the true Messiah, confirmed the covenant in his earthly ministry, possibly 3 years.
He kept the law perfectly, without sin, and fulfilled all the types and patterns of the tabernacle and sacrifices, as the Lamb of God.
By his death on the cross, the ultimate, perfect sacrifice was made forever, removing the need for any further animal sacrifices.
In this sense he caused them to cease, but also fully, when he had the Romans come and destroy the city and sanctuary, the sacrifices ceased until this day.

So, it would make sense that the anti-messiah, the antichrist, would initially deceive Israel into thinking that he is confirming the covenant as their Messiah.
But his will be a false, anti-confirmation of the covenant, which he will go against, after 3 years.

Then the final 3 years will be the time of Jacob's trouble.
It will be when the anti-messiah will attempt to destroy Israel and Jerusalem, to kill all of them by the end of that final 3 years.
But it will also be when Jesus, the true Messiah, will be preparing his people, so that a remnant (⅓?), will receive him as Messiah at the end of that 3 years.

Daniels' prayer, and the prophecy given to him, are both about Daniel's people and Jerusalem.
The first 483 years of the prophecy was all about Israel and Jerusalem.
The first half of the final week of years, is also all about Israel and Jerusalem.
The final half of the final seven years is also all about Israel and Jerusalem.

So, why do some teachers want this prophecy to apply to the church, or at least also apply to the church?
Why do some teachers see the church also going through the tribulation with Israel?
Do they believe that the time of Jacob's trouble is equally also the time of the church's trouble?

They do the same with Matthew 24.
Jesus had just finished rebuking the religious leaders of Israel in chapter 23, then in chapter 24 the discussion begins with the temple.
Then Jesus goes on to discuss the great tribulation, and mentions the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel:

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

  16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Clearly Jesus is speaking about the same things that Daniel was concerned about.
This is not about the church, yet some teachers focus on the church fleeing - the church is not the people populating Judaea, that will have to flee.
The holy place is not in reference to the church, but the temple.
Jesus mentioned when the abomination of desolation is seen standing in the holy place.
The church won't be there looking at that.
At that point, Israel will have only the priests at the golden candlestick, table of shewbread, and the altar of incense.
They will also only have a high priest go in beyond the veil (at least until the antichrist goes in there).
So the church won't be there seeing that abomination of desolation.
Also, there won't be cameras in there, like they have at the wailing wall, as the rest of the people are not to see those things, not even the other Levites:

Numbers 4:20 But they shall not go in to see when the holy things are covered, lest they die.

They are only to hear, not see:

Exodus 28:34 A golden bell and a pomegranate, a golden bell and a pomegranate, upon the hem of the robe round about.

  35 And it shall be upon Aaron to minister: and his sound shall be heard when he goeth in unto the holy place before the LORD, and when he cometh out, that he die not.

It is not an open place to check out:

Leviticus 16:2 And the LORD said unto Moses, Speak unto Aaron thy brother, that he come not at all times into the holy place within the vail before the mercy seat, which is upon the ark; that he die not: for I will appear in the cloud upon the mercy seat.

So, apparently the priests will see the abomination of desolation stand in the holy place, and let others know, and then the Jews in Judaea will need to flee.

Also, it mentions only the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place, it doesn't mention the antichrist's camera crew standing in there as well.

Why do some teachers want the tribulation to be about the church?
The church may yet experience persecution in places that have not had severe persecution so far.
But persecution is not the great tribulation, they are two different things for two different groups.