Hello John and Doves,

 

This letter follows my previous one about the roundtable discussion of the Covid response by the US government et al:  "World-Renowned Doctors Wreak Havoc on COVID Narrative.

 

I really enjoyed Dave Hunt's article in the Prophecy Watchers December magazine.  www.prophecywatchers.com

 

In this Prophecy Watchers magazine article, 12.2022, titled, "The Pre-Trib Rapture Is In The Olivet Discourse" by Dave Hunt - Dave wrote, "I think if you overlook the rapture in the Olivet Discourse, you are leaving yourselves without the strongest arguments of a pre-trib rapture."

 

Dave believes that Jesus is talking about two events - the rapture and the second  coming.

 

His reasons are:

 

1)  In Matthew 24 Jesus describes what is coming in the future - great tribulation such as the world has never experienced before.  He gives all the signs -  Yet, in verse 44, Jesus said, "Therefore, be ye ready:  for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh."  "Now that can't be in the midst of Armageddon and that can't be when all the signs are fulfilled.  That has to be a pre-trip rapture.  That is, if one is IN the Tribulation there is no way one is NOT going to know this.  If one is in the Trib there is no way that the Son of man can cometh in an hour as one thinks not.  The countdown has already started.   "It's going to be very clear to everybody, the whole world, that Jesus is at the door"; that He's coming - all the signs have been fulfilled.  "On the one hand He says, "I am coming when any idiot knows I'm coming,' all the signs have been fulfilled, they see the sign of the Son of Man, and so on and so forth, all the tribes are mourning."  No way is anyone going to sit down and say, I don't think He's coming now. 

 

Dave Hunt goes on to write, In the New Testament, it says that Christ is going to come at a time of peace.  No, He's coming at a time of war.  He's coming at a time when nobody expects Hime.  No, He's coming at a time when everyobdy expects Him.  "So, my first point then is, if we deny that the rapture is in the Olivet Discourse, we've got Christ contradicting Himself."

 

2)  In Luke 17 we read about the days of Noah.  "Actually, what it is talking about is the wicked being destroyed.  Noah is the one who was taken away in the ark....but it's more clear when you read about Lot, Luke 17:28-30..The righteous are taken out.  And when they're gone, judgment comes."  "Going back to Matthew 24, (verse 40-41 "Two men will be in the field, one will be taken and the other left.  Two women will be grinding at the mill:  one will be taken and the other left.  And in Luke 17:34  "...there shall be two men in one bed,; the one shall be taken, and the other will be left." ) that is it's the righteous really, who are taken away, and the wicked are left for judgment....It doesn't sound to me like He's snatching people out of beds to face judgment."

 

3)  "Well, it's a two-part reason, the conditions on earth, and the attitude of the people at the time that He comes.  "The world is practically destroyed by the time of the second coming.  And to suggest that nobody's expecting it?  As the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.  Who's going to be slumbering and sleeping in the midst of Armageddon, at the end of the tribulation?  Somehow, it doesn't fit with the second coming of Christ, the attitude of these people, they just don't believe anything is going to happen....They're not buying, and selling and building and planting and partying and marrying and giving in marriage.  That sounds to me like it's a time of relative peace and prosperity.  It sounds like business as usual, they're grinding at the mill, they're out in the field planting, and they're sleeping in the bed  This is not a world that's been destroyed.  This is not a world that's in the midst of Armageddon...Again, I think it's a great argument for a pre-trib rapture.  The conditions that He's talking about, only fit a pre-trib time.  They don't fit a post-trip rapture.  It just wouldn't fit."  Then Dave talks about those who make it through to the end of the Tribulation.  "They survived it.  It's an an escape at that point.  It's a rescue."    

 

Dave continues, in Luke 23:34, Jesus says, "And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares."  Dave wrote, "It hardly seems to me to be a danger or temptation that anyone would be subject to during, certainly the last part of the great tribulation at least...To me, it's a message to the church today, not a message to Israel at the end of the great tribulation in the midst of Armageddon.  So, once again, I just don't see that it fits with the second coming."

 

He ends his article with, "I think, brothers and sisters, if you say the rapture is not in the Olivet Discourse, I think you're missing some powerful arguments for a pre-trib, not just a rapture, but a pre-tribu rapture...when nobody expects Him, when they are liable to be tempted by over-indulgence and drunkenness and the cares, and the things of this life, when even the wives are slumbering and sleeping as the bridegroom tarries.  A time when they've buying and selling and building and planting."

 

"So...I think Christ is contracting Himself if we don't have two events.  The attitude of the people, the conditions on this earth; the Bridegroom coming for His bride...I just think it's the rapture!

 

We can see how we are entering the time Jesus described in the Olivet Discourse.  Wars and rumors of wars and coming great wars.  Death and slaughter and coming great death and coming great slaughter.  Famine and coming great famine.  Earthquakes and coming great earthquakes.  Plagues and coming great plagues.  These "beginnings" bring in the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.   What is happening now is magnified to the nth power during the Tribulation!

 

Most of the Olivet Discourse came about when the disciples questioned Jesus about - when will these things happen and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?  It's in this discourse that Jesus tells us about "the abomination of desolation" - the surrounding of Jerusalem by armies (the parallel gospel Luke 21:20) - and how terrible these days will be - the greatest tribulation ever.  The sun will be darkened and the stars will fall from the sky - the powers of heaven will be shaken - then the Son of Man appears in heavens - all the tribes of the earth will mourn as they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory!!  Matthew 24: 29, 30, 31

 

Amen!

 

 

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem!

 

Maranatha!

 

Chance