By
1 Cor 10:31
THIS
BOTHERED ME ALL WEEK!!!!
Christians
& those reading here at Doves (hopefully Christians
mainly).
I
do not think nor say this lightly. I have no
“personal” vendetta with the guy, Preacher/teacher John
MacArthur. But is he “off” Biblically?
If he says or preaches (this goes for ALL
teachers/preachers of the Word of God) anything even
slightly off or apart from Scripture – then he is wrong,
DEAD WRONG!!!!! To say & never recant that
people CAN take the mark of the beast during the
Tribulation & STILL BE SAVED….. goes completely
AGAINST Scripture!!!! Scripture is CLEAR that anyone
who takes I will be sentenced and confined to the burning
LAKE OF FIRE for all eternity!!
To say that Jesus died ONLY for the “select few”
(his term meaning elect) and not for the whole world
– when Scripture says otherwise – makes him a FALSE
TEACHER!!!!!!!
There
are other things I can bring up, though these are the main
2.
But
what really bothered me about this WOLF – in sheep’s
clothing – probably the BIGGEST BADDEST WOLF in all
America – b/c he comes nicely packaged, all dressed in a 3
piece suit – and after all he SOUNDS so Biblical (and
pious).
What
bothered me was THIS: EXCLUSIVE:
MacArthur Shamed, Excommunicated Wife of Child Abuser
(julieroys.com) After he blames and
SHAMES – not the perpetrator, the child RAPIST and torture
-- but rather blames and shames the wife & mother – THE VICTIM – THEN…. after publicly
shaming her to his church, then
he has the audacity to say, “now let’s sing AMAZING
GRACE”. Oh the irony!! The
hypocrisy!!!
And
this: John
MacArthur’s Church Supported Convicted Abuser &
Pedophile (julieroys.com) I simply do
not have the stomach to read the court documents available
online of what all this David Gray did (and admitted he
did) to these kids – I’m sorry but that would haunt me for
a long time….. but it is available & some
commentators have said what he did as a monster was far
worse than ABUSE.
Yet,
the woman is supposed to just roll over & welcome him
home with open arms??? Are you some kind of
sadist, John MacArthur???? First of all, how can she
even allow him back into her life, her home – WHEN THE GUY
IS STILL IN PRISON???? DUH!!!! And
folks, the parole board has DENIED him parole TEN
times!!!!!! In itself, that should speak
volumes. The fact that he shows no repentance…?
From
what I gather – his 21 years to life sentence should most
definitely run a full life time (I would certainly
hope anyway.)
From
all accounts & appearances it most definitely appears
that Johnny Mac & the boys are too arrogant to admit
they majorly goofed here – and it’s far easier to place
blame on the VICTIM!!!!!! This is not the first time
he’s done this. His personal theories when women are
being abused is to get out of the house for a short time
(till the guy calms down) and then return playing
housewife and handmaiden & “give him more
sex”. SIGHS!! No, I’m
serious. Look this up.
Ladies
this is NOT good advice!!!!!! This is NOT what the
Lord Jesus would expect you to do!!!!
What
Johnny Mac did to this lady is
REPREHENSIBLE!!! SIN-SICK and
SADISTIC!!! Ladies & Gentlemen: is THIS
the kind of church YOU want to go to?? This what you
want in a leader??
- He
pronounced that the lady (victim) refused to reconcile
& therefore showed no grace “to him” (her husband….
The abuser). Did HE show grace to his wife
or kids he raped & tortured???? There are some
sins so heinous such as this – that 2nd
chances should not be allowed anyway.
- JMac
pronounced that Eileen took the children away from
him….. well YEAH!!!! Any
victimized person “in her right mind”….. WOULD!!!!!
- And
he (Johnny Mac) made ACCUSATIONS against Eileen as
though she was lying about all this!! When in
fact, the guy CONFESSED & ADMITTED he had done
it!!! So with accusing her, Jmac shames her,
puts her out of the church & even accuses her of
possibly being an UNBELIEVER.
Now
let’s sing Amazing Grace – grace which Johnny Mac knows
NOTHING about!!!
Further:
www.TheWatchmanWakes.org
And
you may have to google or duckduckgo these: Watchman
Wakes in Vain
John
MacArthur Cult Watch Forum
If
you can assess them and have time to read there, I pray
your eyes will be opened!!
This
is the “kind” of church I want to attend…… NOT!!!!!
This
lady was VICTIMIZED twice!!!!!! Not only by DH
abusing their children {husband David Gray EVEN ADMITTED
it – to the point of BRUTALITY!!!}
Yet
Eileen Gray was then victimized AGAIN….. by the very
church which should be SUPPORTING HER!!!!!!! But
that’s the rub w/JMac – it’s always the woman’s fault –
she should be nicer, more submissive… more sex…… um, yah,
seriously!! LOOK IT UP!!!!! Just
like muslims – who rape women, then BLAME the women!!
Still
happens!!
This
happens all over America & can you blame the ones who
leave the intuition of “church” over **** [the four stars
mean: junk] like this???
We
have friends…. Who were CONSTANTLY SLANDERED from
the pulpit!! At a Johnny Mac residual church
(leaders graduated from his master’s seminary)…..Not once,
but repeatedly….. their big “crime”??
They financially helped a family who was in desperate need
of food, clothing, even gas for their car….. and they used
money from THEIR OWN POCKETS!!!! But their “shepherd” (or
jerk…. Whatever they’re called…..) had in no
uncertain terms TOLD THEM NOT TO!!!!!!
So
with “egg on his face” …. By their doing something he
clearly told them NOT TO DO (just how far should the
reach of the church be in a person’s life??) so egg
on face pastor spent the next 2 – 3 years speaking out
against these people. PUBLICLY SHAMING them from the
pulpit….. And HAVING THEM STALKED by others in the
church!!!!!! SLANDERING them every way to
Sunday!!!
Note
to only you, Elizabeth – it was never my intent to offend
you!! How was I to know you read a site like
Doves?? Thought you warned people to stay away from
charismania!!
I
never said you “worship” JMac. Only you AND GOD know
whether you idolize him or not. But don’t think it
went past me how, some years ago, you gave Sheryl the
brush off – and actually TOLD HER to leave your site b/c
she tried to politely and diplomatically “warn”
you of the dangers of this man & his church!!
And his “druid festivals” for the young people.
She
did it in a most loving way and yet you refused to accept
that – that JMac could do anything wrong! So I do
find it odd that you are willing to take absolutely anyone
else to task (and yes, you do print some good stuff, lots
of truth there!!) but you refuse to put your
fav. under the microscope…. Why is that, Elizabeth??
We
are called to hold one another accountable. As iron
sharpens IRON!!.....
There
is another site which I used to occasionally peek at,
though with his AUTOMATICALLY SIDING with JMac on this – I
refuse to as much as “peek” any more.
I’ve
read some of JMac’s online stuff, and scan read a couple
books – though after I found out what the guy’s really
like – INTO THE TRASHCAN went those books!!!!
Not about to donate, to get into the hands of someone else
who – while searching for truth -- could easily be swayed
by this man. I’ve researched to find that he
personally writes none of his books . The fact that
he wrote a BIBLE?? Nah – again I’m not going to
allow infallible man to REINTERPRET God’s breathed
Word!! Adding his opinionated opinions to
it. We are NOT to add to God’s Word… PERIOD!!!
That’s
ALL HE IS!!! A man!! A flawed man who
SINS!!!! In fact, truth be known, I think he does
far more than sins – I agree with www.DiscerningTheWorld.com
…. RE:
JMac (what people call him to shorten his
name: John MacArthur)
Even
some of his most ardent followers are FINALLY WAKING UP –
to the fact how he demanded there was NO pandemic!!! That
Covid was NOT a thing (I agree…) BUT THEN…..
he got on board (that’s b/c he’s ONE OF THEM!! The
globalist cabal) and TOLD his congregation to
TAKE THE VAX!!!!!! He should have been
taken to task – why take a vax for something that (even he
claimed) did not exist?? Dumb, dumb, dumb!!!!
And
I hope you know some years ago he built a MUSEIUM about
and to himself!! [then has the audacity to send out
donation requests to his followers!! Guess
what? NOT ONE PLUG NICKEL from me!!] I
mean C’mon!! WHO DOES THAT?? Instead of
glorifying the Lord – builds a M U S E U M to and
about yourself?? Nah, thanks, that’s one
museum tour I’ll pass on!!
Do
not LORD IT OVER OTHERS. The BIBLE SAYS THIS!!!!!
And that’s all this heretic does. He SHAMES
others. There is absolutely NO getting up
close to talk to the man – he has constant GUARDS…. Yes
guards!!!! He chooses whom he will and won’t allow
to approach him.
Contrast
& compare that to the old fashioned preacher I grew up
with (a neighbor who brought me to the Lord) and even
after he moved to a family farm, my teenage friends &
I were invited to stay with him & his wife a couple
weekends a year…. I’m sure it was no picnic for his
wife who, I gather would’ve rather been doing something
else with her life than entertaining teenage girls!!
Yet, she was betrothed to him, and she was very gracious
about the whole thing.
I’m
glad you have learned some Biblical truths under JM’s
tutelage. I have learned from many inc. some who are
the very ones you claim who are false teachers.
Truth is, MOST all of the BIG NAME preachers &
teachers ARE false!! FACT!!!! But I have
enough Biblical discernment to check every word said
against Scripture. Philippians 1:16 ~ so we
can learn from even teachers who do it for selfish aim
& gain!!
Truth
is, it’s NAILS ON CHALKBOARD to me to even hear this guy’s
voice!!!! Especially his “slave” promo – on
YouTube. YUCK, can’t stand to hear him even talk!!
I
firmly believe he will be used to progress the Tribulation
– and a front row cheerleader to get people to take the
Mark of the Beast. From my viewpoint, he will be
HERE during The Tribulation. If I’m wrong, I’ll
gladly admit it. And IF I am wrong & he makes
heaven – we should even be allowed to “freely approach the
guy” then/there – he will not be surrounded by henchmen
& guards.
Truthfully?
I HOPE to be wrong!! I realize he speaks MUCH truth
– but it’s that tiny bit of poison that kills the
roaches!!
If
you’ll seriously consider these sites and what people are
saying, I really don’t think I am wrong. Plus I’ve
seen for myself the colors the dude wears …. And the
symbols, etc. etc. [eyes to see; ears to
hear!]….. and I’ve heard for myself from his own
mouth (You Tube) about limited atonement [Talk about
twisting Scripture!!!!] which totally flies in the
face of 1 John 2!!!!!!! JESUS
DIED FOR ALL THE WORLD, NOT FOR A SELECT FEW!!!!
He
is DEAD WRONG about:
- Limited
atonement
- TULIP
- Mark
of the beast
- Shaming
victims!!
I’m
SURE he’d gladly shame me publicly – though I’ve already
confessed my worst sin is cussing when I’m riled.
Can overcome only by the Lord’s help. One “sister” a
few years back – claimed the Lord IMMEDIATELY helped her
to stop cussing the very minute she got saved. Yeah
– but what she DIDN’T say was she continued being addicted
to cigarettes + other vices. /I sort of must chuckle as we
all have our weaknesses where we stumble!! Everyone
just needs to hone up & admit it.
At
his age, Johnny Mac should be far more concerned about the
Lord shaming “him” on Judgment Day – for all the world to
see!!
‘nuff
said