Doves,
Did you ever think about or wonder why the dead in Christ have to be brought back to earth from heaven before they can be transformed from mortal to immortal? They are already in heaven so why do they have to be brought back (from where they are to go) to join the alive in Christ for the rapture?
And where are they brought to?
Are they brought from heaven to the place where they originally died or are they all collectively brought to some special staging point? (Answers later in text.....)
It is clearly stated in 1 Thessalonians 4:14 that God the Father will bring / brings the dead in Christ with Him when He comes. Comes where? When He comes to re-establish His kingdom on earth for approximately 3.5 years in Canaan / the promised land.
You didn't realize that He will do that ?!! Just recite the Lord's Prayer, a prophecy by Jesus Himself describing this coming reality concerning the Father.
Our Father who art in heaven
Hallowed be Your name.
Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.
When will the Father's kingdom on earth be re-established ?....... a kingdom designed just as it was in the time of Moses with Him living in the Ark of the Covenant
Soon after an abomination, an image of the beast / antichrist is “set up”in Jerusalem. (Matthew 24, Daniel 12) This happens 1290 days prior to the end of the 7 years or 30 days prior to the mid point of those 7 years.
The bible says in Zechariah and Isaiah that God the Father also comes down from heaven to keep His contract, His covenant with the Jewish nation Israel. Not so much for the Jewish people but to honor His own good name and His commitment to the covenant. He does so by intervening on Israel's behalf when she is attacked by “all nations”. (Zechariah 14:2)
In the process of that intervention He destroys a great multitude of the forces attacking Israel and He creates a huge new valley of land right on top of existing land that was originally called the promised land or Canaan. (Zechariah 14)
The description of this land, this new valley and the massive security provided to it is described in Zechariah, Isaiah and Daniel. It will be a modern day Noah's “land” ark.
An enclosed (yes a roof as per Isaiah 25) compound which will extend hundreds of miles to the borders descriptions of the original “promised land” as per Genesis.
This has to be an ark-like security compound not to keep out water but to keep out the Satanic / antichrist forces that will surround it. Although as per Revelation 12:15-17) Satan does try to flood this valley / compound in an effort to kill those inside. The famous Psalm 23 was written to describe this valley compound......”yea, thought I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil”.... The “shadow of death” being the evil Satanic forces to the sides and above this new compound poised but unable to reach God's elect.
Just outside the security of this valley will be the forces of evil bent on killing “the elect” of God who now reside there, some (the elect) for a short 6 day stay (Christian Church) and some for a 3.5 year stay (the alive Jewish remnant) that will be fed and nourished there for 1260 days as per Revelation 12.
Just as in Noah's time God the Father will personally seal this ark-like structure to prevent Satan's / antichrist's forces from gaining entry. Satan's forces will at that point control earth and the atmosphere above earth.....just as they do currently. Matthew 4:8, Ephesians 2:2
And these Satanic forces will by that point have been expelled from heaven and their travels limited to earth......banished to earth. Revelation 12
So...God the Father builds a modern day security enclosure / ark over the top of a new great valley......why?
To house His elect, elect who He sent His angels to gather and bring there. Matthew 24:31
And the elect are.....
The dead in Christ
The alive in Christ
The alive Jewish remnant from around the world whose names appear in the book (Daniel 12)
The whole house of Israel / Jacob.... meaning all of the dead descendants of Jacob that have ever lived.....hundreds of millions of them. Ezekiel 37
So inside this enclosure which also envelopes Jerusalem (Zechariah 14) are stationed “4 groups” of people.
First group....
The whole house of Jacob, hundreds of millions of dead Jews will be at the extreme eastern end of this compound hundreds of miles from Jerusalem at the Euphrates River guarded by 4 angels.(Revelation 9) They will have their bodies restored but will not have consciousness (Ezekiel 37) until the timing is correct. These people will constitute God the Father's end time army. (Joel 2:11) and will when the time is correct (Book of Ester) be tasked by God to kill a third of the existing population of the world at that time.(Revelation 9:15-)
Second group....
The alive Jewish remnant whose names appear in the book (Daniel 12) who are near Jerusalem and will witness what happens there with the Christians as their ancestors did with the story of Lazarus. These alive Jews will also be forced to re-establish the blood covenant with God the Father for approximately 3.5 years and all that that entails due to the Jews rejecting Jesus 2000 years earlier.
Third group....
Then we have the dead in Christ which were brought to this valley / ark by God the Father. This appears as a reflection of what happened in Joshua's time that they will be brought back to life by Jesus 4 days after they arrive there. Jesus will temporarily remove a portion of the covering over the ark- like structure (Isaiah 25:7) and shout at /to these “dead in Christ” just as He did to Lazarus (John 11:43) and as He shouted as is depicted in 1 Thessalonians 4:16......”and the dead in Christ will rise first”. Rise meaning rise like Lazarus did back to life.....not rise up in the rapture.
The fourth group....
The fourth group of people that have been gathered by Gods angels on a very special day of unknown duration (Matthew 24:36) known only to the Father and taken to this new compound are the alive members of the Christian Church.
Now to answer the first question that I posed above.....why do the dead in Christ that are in heaven have to be brought back to earth by God the Father when He comes? Two reasons...
First for their security. This new valley, the new ark-like compound will be the chosen location for the safety of all of God' elect. War and an unsafe situation will have broken out in heaven combined with the Satanic control of earth will warrant the Father's creation of a fortified zone of safety within this new enclosed valley.
The second reason the dead in Christ must be brought back to this new valley is to be “born again”. Jesus said in John 3 twice (for effect) that …..“Most assuredly” (it's mandatory) that one has to be born again of the water and the Spirit or they cannot see or enter the kingdom of God / heaven.
As per Paul in Romans 8: 15 and 23-25 we Christians when we initially accept Jesus as our Savior receive “an adoption quantity” of the Holy Spirit....a first fruits quantity of the Spirit but that a much greater quantity of the Spirit is necessary to see or enter heaven.
Where do we receive this final quantity of water and Spirit necessary to complete us?
As per Zechariah and Isaiah there will flow a new river within this new valley that emanates from Jerusalem that contains “living waters” (Zechariah 14:8) or as per Isaiah 12:3 the “wells of salvation”. Certainly these waters from this new river will contain the actual blood and Spirit of Jesus that He deposited there 2000 years ago at His crucifixion.
And for the Christian Church to receive their “full quantity”of these most important of substances they must bath and be immersed in this new river. At that point they will have been physically exposed to the actual Spirit and blood of Jesus making them then indeed part of.....the body of Christ....not just mentally but now physically.
This is why the dead in Christ will have to be brought back to earth. Once this “born again” process is completed “the revived” dead in Christ and the alive in Christ will be rapture ready or ready to be changed from mortal to immortal and rise to meet Jesus in the clouds.
After this “born again process” for the Christian church has been completed and witnessed by the Jews (the Lazarus story) it will be time to celebrate.
Then the very next day just like in Joshua's time, the now “revived” dead in Christ (type set of Joshua's Jews who were recuperating from circumcision) will join the alive in Christ and the alive remnant Jews who are there in this valley to have their “first meal” from this new land...... just like Joshua did when they crossed into this same “promised land”thousands of years earlier.
This meal will be the “Marriage Supper of the Lamb” which is also a direct reflection of the Wedding Story in Matthew 22 where God the Father arranges a marriage for His son and invites guests who refuse to show up and even kill the messengers (the prophets and Jesus) who the Father sent to invite them (the Jews who rejected Jesus 2000 years ago). So, the Father then invites whomever will accept the invitation (the gospel message of Jesus) to this feast, this banquet. Those being, the Gentiles, some of which have become the Christian Church.
To complete this amazing process within this new valley and yet again tie in another connected biblical parallel......the next day, after the banquet, which will be the same day that Jesus arose as the original first fruit......the Christian body of Christ will also be changed in an instant from mortal to immortal and then arise to meet the head of that body... Jesus.... in the clouds above Jerusalem.
Then to be taken through a portal which is located there near Jerusalem (Jacobs ladder) and through two coverings, one that protects and covers the new ark-like valley and also the firmament covering above that that veils the whole earth. This is detailed in Isaiah 25:7.
As per scripture we will return to earth with Jesus about 42 months later when Jesus returns as King of Kings and Lord of Lords to rule and reign on earth for a thousand years.
Now you know why the dead in Christ have to be brought back to earth and why we who are alive on earth have to also be gathered during a special day known only to the Father. A day of unknown duration, to a place of security, created by God the Father.
Blessings Doves......John B
P.S. I will try to write another post this week which reflects from scriptures past where the rapture location is within this new valley.
P.S. No posts from me for several weeks....leaving this cold tundra to visit family in warm surroundings. Hopefully to dispense lots of kisses on two young grandchildren..... set a hook into a sea trout or redfish …...or chase a little white ball around on green grass (haven't seen that (green grass) in many months)