Greeting John and Doves,
       This week I received a letter from Ron Reese inquiring about my position on a few topics. My response seemed to enough good information that I've decided to post it here with just a few typo corrections, and the omission of the last couple sentences which were just personal.
Agape
Charles Holler Sr



Hi Charles,  Do you believe in the Fall of 2015 to Fall of 2022 timeline for the 7-Year Tribulation?  Where do you currently stand on 11/11/15 being the starting date?  Where do you see the Rapture in relation to the Tribulation?  Please forgive me if I should know the answer to these questions, but I read so many posts, and so many emails, that I am not sure where you stand.
 
Maranatha!
 
Ron


Greetings brother Ron,
      I have just come to realize how many people are not able to see my videos because either dial-up Internet, living in the country, or just having outdated computers that are unable to view the videos. The one that I did in November, a week before Thanksgiving has had over 28,000 views. You would be surprised how much of what you have written in the last two weeks was in that video. It brings joy to my soul when I see the Lord work like this. I am going to transcribe my last couple videos and post them on Doves just because the information is important and I thought everyone was able to view them. I will send you copies before they post on Doves, hopefully by the end of this week.

      Thank you so much for your inquiry about my understanding of the timing of the rapture. I would assume the main reason you don't know where I stand is because I have never publicly stated so. First of all let me state, I do believe that the  "no man knows the day or the hour"  is a deception by the enemy the way it is used to abuse people who are trying to figure out a date and timing of the rapture. I believe that the Scripture in Matthew says "but of that day knoweth no man" has nothing to do with the rapture, but instead has something to do with either the end of the age or when heaven and earth have passed away. I truly believe that if we watch we will know when he is coming. Daniel even gives us several day counts of 1260 1290 and 1335 and as we draw closer, those words are unsealed through progressive revelation, I believe we will have a clearer idea as to the actual timing of the Rapture and Second Coming of Jesus.

       I hope you will bear with me because not only is this a little complicated but a little lengthy.  First let me say I have really enjoyed everything you have written since you exposed Obama making his covenant  with the many in October 2008. I followed that timeline almost to the very end. So one thing I've learned over the years is you can't put  God in a box and the reason I have not stated where I stand publicly s because I'm not sure. I'm willing to put my own beliefs aside in search of the Truth. I never wanted to be guilty as the religious leaders  were back in the days of Jesus. Some were saying Hes supposed to come from Egypt, no from Bethlehem, no He's a Nazarene. Well as my buddy Johnny B from tribulation now says "it wasn't...... either.... or..... it was both".

    Starting it, my view  depends on whether I believe in a seven-year tribulation or a 3 1/2 year tribulation, or both.  I most assuredly believe in Daniel's 70th week which is a week long.. But did Jesus himself fulfill 42 months with His ministry and He was cut off in the midst, and now we await for the last 42 months, or was the first 42 months fulfilled between October 2008 and April 11, 2012. We do know that beyond a shadow of doubt it was a 1260 day count and we had the two largest slip earthquakes in history as a verification. So is there a gap between that time and the beginning of the last 3 1/2 years? These are some of the questions that will be answered by progressive revelation as we draw closer.

     For several years now I have been leaning towards the last 42 months is what was left, but I did struggle with two witnesses as I always believed they would be ministering during the first 42 months. If they do minister during the last 42 months then we could  just waiting for the last 42 months to begin. As part of the progressive revelation Jonathan Cohn certainly has something with his Revelation of the Jubilee year's and the Shmetahs. One cannot help but take notice of so many  timelines converging on September 23 and September 13, 2015. If we are waiting for the Great Tribulation ( the last 42 months) then I have to believe the rapture will happen in the Spring. This would allow the Second Coming of Christ to occur on the Feast of Trumpets.

  I had never looked at Spring as being a possible rapture date before, because Jesus fulfilled all the Spring Feasts, but when we look at Matthew...
Mat 21:9  And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest.

 and

Mat 23:39  For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

could this be a clue that a future Rapture date ( this mystery as Paul calls it ) would be on Nissan 10, a day when they say "Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord".

and consider that Jesus was the first fruits and that we are the rest of the fruit and our rapture could happen in the Spring. Nissan 10 is April 17th 2016 and 1260 days later is September 30th 2019 (Feast of Trumpets) This would be about 6 months after Sept. 23, 2015 and the horrors that are predicted  September 13th - 23rd could set off the largest Revival the Church has ever known. This of coarse is just speculation at this point but it is one of the scenarios I'm looking at.

    Now as far as a seven year tribulation scenario goes... This new timeline you have presented makes perfect sense. I have always been drawn back to Jacob and the 21 years that he spent working for Laban. And it was those last seven years that was his tribulation period as the spotted goats started  becoming all solid and then the solid ones became spotted and  whatever Jacob laid his hands on did prosper. The Levi Shoemaker, comet and it's 21 fragments showed a prophetic pattern of three sevens, and they happened on the ninth of Av or  911 in the Hebrew  calendar and this is our third shmetah since 911 with one of them dropping the Dow 777.68 points. There was another sign in the stars the gives confirmation to your timeline Ron. On Thanksgiving 2013 the whole world watched as comet ISON came around the sun in what was supposed to be the comet of the century. Even though it fizzled out it brought our attention to two things: one was Hanukkah and Thanksgiving were on the exact same day and this would not happen for another 70,000 years, and 2 there were multiple comets in our solar system at the same time. Never before have we had over three comets in our solar system at one time. Now we have four, then five, then six, and finally seven comets which seemed to be God creating a menorah in the sky of seven comments. The other unique thing about, ISON was that when most comets are always named after the astronomer who discovers it, this one was named after the telescope it was discovered on.  I believe this is because the word ISON translated in Hebrew is wormwood and one of the Greek astronomer's name also translates wormwood. So here we have ISON translating into wormwood in the Greek and Hebrew instead of any of the other 6,900 languages on Earth.  Now I do believe this is the wormwood in Revelation 8. You will notice though it is  supposed to land on a third of all the waters, that seems impossible as a comet that large would destroy our whole planet, , but nothing is impossible with God.Now what I believe about comet wormwood (which was supposed to be it's real name), when it broke apart and we went through the debris field, NASA said it would stay  in our stratosphere for months and even longer than a year because the particles were so small (only 3 to 4 microns)  that it would take time before they slowly seeped through our atmosphere and dusted our planet. I believe at the appointed time when wormwood is supposed to strike us in the order that it is supposed to come, that this is where it's coming from, and this is how it will make a third of the waters poison.

       Now when I read your posts and see how you arrived at 11:11 it cannot help but remind me that my family and myself continuously see 11:11 everywhere we look. (some exaggeration on everywhere). Just last week as I was awaiting the Bibi Netanyahu speech, I got very busy and forgot about it. Then all of a sudden the Lord prompted me to call Neil G. Russell the author of the new book Newton's Riddle, and when he answered the phone all he said was "Charles, why are you not watching this?" and I immediately knew what he meant and he said "Fox News" and simultaneously without saying a word, we both just hung up. When I turned Fox News on, I happened to look at the timer in the upper left-hand corner and it said 11:10. I immediately thought "he is going to be  speaking at 11:11" and as the clock turned to 11:11 he was introduced and  in a second or two he started speaking. So this is also another confirmation that 11:11 is important and something big could happen on that date and very possible the beginning of Jacob's Trouble.

    So Ron, I have said all of that to say this, I'm still waiting for the progressive knowledge that The Lord would have me wait for as a watchman. I do believe the closer we get, the revelation will come, and He will raise up men like Mark Biltz, Jonathan Cahn, and you.  I believe all those who are watching and have the Spirit of Christ in them see this. I believe at this point if there's only a 42 month Great Tribulation left that the rapture will be in the Spring of 2016 and that the greatest harvest the church has ever seen will start September 13, 2015. I believe this harvest will be prompted by a great disaster of some sort. One thing for sure it's going to be economical, but it could also have other natural aspects too. There could be several disasters happen before September 13 that would cause our economy to collapse. I do have my eyes on March 20, 2015  as it is a darkened son before a blood moon,it  is Nissan one, the day the earth was made, it is the vernal equinox, and it is a Sabbath. I don't know if you have read Newtons Riddle or not, but it's fiction written as a parable the way Joel Rosenberg wrote his novels. Way before he knew that there was a solar eclipse centered between the four blood red moons on March 20 of this year he had picked in his book March 20 for the day that the New Madrid fault line would erupt. So please forgive me for rambling on as I get excited to talk about the esoteric things of God. I look forward to conversing with you in the future as we both receive progressive revelation. And if there is a seven year tribulation. I believe you are right on target with everything you have written.
Agape,
Charles Holler sr.