KML (22 June 2014)
"??? No Wonder ???"

 

  I understand that we all here in fivedoves, do not always agree in Doctrine, or in the interpretation of the Scripture. We do not share the same opinion as to what is the word of God.  I' personally do not accept (ALL) translations as the word of God.
It is for these reasons that many of us here do not agree, and there is contention among the fivedoves church body. I also understand that this is nothing new concerning we who call ourselves Christian.
With so many denominations, and different doctrines of faith, How can we agree ?
Our Lord knew this and spake through the prophet Amos 3:3 KJV
Who can walk together, except they be agreed ? Thus we have Division: But, our Lord Jesus Christ also said these words in Luke 12:51- 59 KJV
Suppose ye that I come to give peace on earth ?
I' tell you, Nay; but rather DIVISION(:)

 Jeremiah wrote through the inspiration of the voice of God about the house of prayer/ temple.
Jeremiah 3:16 KJV
And (it) shall come to pass(,) WHEN ye be multiplied and increased (in the land,) IN THOSE DAYS, saith the Lord, They ( Israel) SHALL SAY (NO MORE,) THE ARK OF THE COVENANT OF THE LORD(:) NEITHER SHALL THEY VISIT (IT;) NEITHER SHALL (THAT) BE DONE ANYMORE(.)
Why ? Because Jesus Christ (is) ALL that the Ark of the Covenant represented !
The Ark contained
1. The 10 commandments which (is the WORD of God) John 1:1 KJV
2. The rod of Arron which Budded, and represents Jesus the VINE and we the branches.
3. The cup of manna which reveals Jesus IS the bread of Life.
 4.The Ark (was) the mercy seat. Jesus the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of the living God, Gave Himself for us. SHOWING (mercy) upon the sinners of the world.
God (also) knew HIS Doctrine would DROP and HIS Speech would DISTIL, as we can see here in fivedoves, which is a very small number when compared to the whole world of Christianity.
Deuteronomy 32:2--12 KJV
My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass(:)
5) They all have corrupted themselves, their spot is not the spot of his children(:) THEY ARE A PERVERSE AND CROOKED GENERATION(.)
6) Do ye thus (requite) the Lord, O FOOLISH PEOPLE and UNWISE ? is not he thy father that hath (bought) thee ? hath he not made thee and established thee?

I find it very disturbing and I sorrow over the distillation of the WORD of God in these so called OTHER translations. May God have mercy and forgive them.
Who do we think we are as READERS and TRANSLATORS to (requite) the WORD of God ? and then have the audacity to say " it should have said this," instead of " it says this."
Why do we Christians who are called so, as followers of Jesus Christ, (receive) this distillation in translation of the word of God ?
None of the OTHER translations Agree with the King James.
Amos 3:3 KJV
WHO can walk together, EXCEPT they be agreed ? These Others do not walk with the King James Bible.
We do not walk together, nor do we agree, in many issues for which I have read in posts, based upon what (I read) in my King James Bible.
I trust (it) to be God's Word. You have quoted from (many) translations of what they call the Bible. They all agree with each other, because they all follow the same spirit of disobedience, and the New Synthetic doctrine.
  I feel we must with all respect and good conversation, agree that we in most cases disagree.
It is " No Wonder".

 I quote from the Southern Baptist Sunday School Publication Events
Quote:
Always use more than one translation. Let the Lord speak to you through more than One Voice..... all versions can help us to hear the Voice of God...... the Bible is not what it appears to be. It has No Single Author representing a uniform and consistent point of view. unquote.

Oh Yes It Does !!
The word of God Does Have A Single Author.
GOD;
And IT  (Is) ONE consistent Point of View. God's point of view.
What this New Doctrine is telling you, is to .... get out about TEN different translations when you are studying the scriptures. OR if the books are too big to handle, WE will sell you some software that has 14 ( different) Bible translations and Transliterations on it.

AND SOMEWHERE IN ( ALL THESE DIFFERENT TRANSLATIONS YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ACCURATELY  HEAR, (MAYBE.... WHAT GOD IS SAYING.)
This is  The New " Synthetic Doctrine ."

Allow me to show you what " The Bible alone says.
Psalms 119:140 KJV
Thy word is very pure therefore thy servant loveth it.
Psalms 119:160 KJV
Thy word is (true) from the Beginning and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.
The 490th chapter of the Bible
Psalms 12:6,7 KJV Future Tense. David was saying " it will always be Preserved.

Corruption comes in 3 forms.
1. Changing of the reading.
2. Omission of part of the verse.
3. Omission of All of a verse or verses.
These Changes make it say something completely different.

                 "One of These is lying !"
KJV
Hosea 11:12
Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit(:)
but Judah YET RULETH WITH GOD, AND IS FAITHFUL WITH THE SAINTS.

NIV   
Hosea 11:12
Judah is UNRULEY AGAINST GOD, even AGAINST the FAITHFUL and Holy One.

Totally Contradictory Statements from one Bible to the other.
And Yet this " New Synthetic Doctrine " says that WE are supposed to HEAR God's Voice SOMEWHERE in here, But; you know what ?

God IS NOT the author of Confusion, and IF one verse says that JUDAH RULES WITH GOD, and the Other verse says that JUDAH is UNRULEY,
Which One is RIGHT ?!

There is a STANDARD for all things.
 The measure for a piece of Lumber.
In Medical Science
In Biology
In Grocery stores there is a Standard.
In Gas stations
In a pack of cigarettes there is a Standard.
But for SOME REASON the most important issue that mankind will ever deal with, " The salvation of his soul ", for SOME REASON there is NO STANDARD.
The church has Replaced the word of God.

                         One Of These is Lying !
KJV
Isaiah 7:14
Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

RSV
Isaiah 7:14
A young woman will conceive.

Young women are conceiving all the time, BUT NOT VIRGINS. Where is the miracle in a young woman conceiving?
This New Synthetic Doctrine has REMOVED The Virgin Birth Doctrine of Jesus Christ RIGHT OUT OF THE BIBLE.

Yet we are supposed to believe you can hear God's Voice SOMEWHERE in the middle.

                            One of These are Lying !

KJV
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his ONLY BEGOTTEN Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.

NEV
John 3:16
" his only son".

Most of us memorized this verse as children, because the pastors preached and taught from this old King James Bible. Again they have removed that Jesus was BEGOTTEN of the virgin birth. We are all sons and daughters of God. God doesn't only have one son, but he has ONLY ONE (BEGOTTEN) SON.
Today with this New Synthetic Doctrine, people are using so many different translations, they don't know which verses to memorize. The Psalmist David said;
THY WORD HAVE I HID IN MY HEART " THAT I MIGHT NOT SIN AGAINST THEE."

                   One of These are Lying !
KJV
2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture (is) given [ PRESENT TENSE] by the inspiration of God, and (is) profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

NEV
2 Timothy 3:16
Every inspired scripture has it's use.

This is saying that not all the scripture is inspired of God.

One of These are Lying !
KJV
1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness(:) (God) WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, JUSTIFIED IN THE SPIRIT, SEEN OF ANGELS, PREACHED UNTO THE GENTILES, BELIEVED ON IN THE WORLD, RECEIVED UP INTO GLORY.

NIV
He appeared in a body, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory.
Who are they talking about?
It doesn't say GOD, does it?

One of These are lying !
KJV
Romans 4:25
Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

The death, burial and resurrection (is) what caused our deliverance and justification.

NKJ
Romans 4:25
Who was delivered up because of our offences, and was raised because of our justification.

This REMOVES what Jesus did as a part of our salvation experience.

Yet we are supposed to believe that in this New Synthetic Doctrine, that we can hear (the voice of God) in here somewhere.

One of These are Lying !
KJV
2 Corinthians 2:17
For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God(:) but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

NIV
2 Corinthians 2:17
Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit.

OH YES THEY DO !
In fact, that is why they print all these different bibles.
Even the corruption of the word of God was going on in Paul's day.
The Bible says the love of money is the (root) of all evil.
NKJV reads the same as the NIV.

One of These are Lying !
KJV
Mark 10:24
And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and said unto them, Children, how hard it is for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God !

NIV
Mark 10:24
how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God.

It is not hard ! unless you are full of pride.
You "call" on the name of the Lord and you shall be saved.
Where is God's voice here?
These translators eliminate themselves in this verse, because they trust in the riches of the sales of their false Synthetic Doctrine.

One of These is Lying !
KJV
Isaiah 14:12
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning ! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations !

NIV
Isaiah 14:12
How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn.

The NIV calls Lucifer the morning star(:) Why is that so DEADLY ?
Satan becomes Christ Jesus !

Jesus tells us in Revelation 22:16 KJV
I' JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
I' AM THE ROOT OF THE OFFSPRING OF DAVID, AND ( THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.)
Jesus is the morning star !
NIV says Jesus fell from heaven. NO HE DID NOT ! NO HE DID NOT !
He CAME DOWN because he loved us. God did not kick Jesus out of heaven.
                           ??? NO WONDER ???
KJV
Deuteronomy 23:17
There shall be NO WHORE of the daughters of Israel, nor A SODOMITE of the sons of Israel.

NIV
Deuteronomy 23:17
No Israelite man or woman is to become a shrine prostitute.

The KJV speaks directly that there ought NOT be ANY gays, queers, homosexuals, sodomites IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL. God said he would NOT PUT UP WITH IT.
SOOOO...... ( NIV) NO WONDER we have sodomites standing behind pulpits.
No Wonder we have sodomite weddings going on inside the churches.

YET we are supposed to hear God's word in this New Synthetic Doctrine somewhere !

KJV
1 Kings 14:24
There were also sodomites in the land(:) and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which The Lord Cast Out before the children of Israel.

NIV
1 Kings 14:24
There were even male shrine prostitutes.

YOU WILL NOT FIND THE WORD ( SODOMITE) IN THE NIV !
                    ??? NO WONDER???
KJV
Luke 1:15
For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST, EVEN FROM HIS MOTHER'S WOMB.

NIV
Luke 1:15
He will be filled with the Holy Ghost even from birth.

GOD SAID AS SOON AS THAT CHILD IS CONCEIVED, IT BELONGS TO HIM DOESN'T IT ?
The NIV says he shall be filled with the Holy Spirit even from BIRTH.
NO WONDER !  the churches are telling the  politicians ; " it's ok, abort the babies." And the politicians get to stand in the pulpits of the churches who are PRO-CHOICE, which basically mean they are for MURDER, because the Devil had it TAKEN OUT of the Bible, THAT HE COULD BE FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST ( FROM HIS MOTHER'S WOMB.)
                          ???? NO WONDER ????
KJV
Mathew 1:25
And knew her not till she had brought forth her FIRSTBORN SON(:) and he called his name Jesus.
NIV
Mathew 1:25
But he had no union with her until she gave birth to A SON. And he gave him the name Jesus.

Notice...... the NIV ( removed) the  FIRST BORN ISSUE and it is taken out of the scripture.

Which ONE ?
KJV
Luke 2:33
And Joseph and his mother marveled at those things which were spoken of him.
NIV
Luke 2:33
The child's father and mother.

A change in the reading!
Joseph was NOT the father of Jesus !
NIV is saying Joseph was Jesus father. IT is wrong isn't IT ?

YET we are supposed to believe we can hear God's voice in this New Synthetic Doctrine SOMEWHERE .
                             Which One ?
KJV
Luke 4:4
And Jesus answered him, saying, It IS Written, that man shall NOT live by bread alone, BUT BY EVERY WORD of GOD.
NIV
Man does not live by bread alone. ( Ends right there!)
The NIV OMITTED the rest of the verse.

Please Know This !
If I don't have EVERY word of God in my hands, HOW CAN I LIVE ?
HOW CAN I LIVE ? HOW CAN YOU LIVE ?

                        Which One ?
KJV
John 6:47
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on ME hath everlasting life.
NIV
John 6:47
He who believes has everlasting life.
Believes What ?!

Can you ( believe) on Budah and be saved?
                              on Mohamed and be saved?
                              on Politics and be saved ?
Believe if you have another beer and be saved ?
( BELIEVE ON JESUS CHRIST)
NIV removed Jesus from the verse.
                         Which One ?
KJV
1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth NOT ( that Jesus Christ IS come IN THE FLESH) IS NOT of God and THIS is (that spirit) of the antichrist, whereof ye have heard (that it should come:) and even now already is it in the world.
NIV
1 John 4:3
But every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not of God.

The KJV Bible gives us a clue on how to spot the antichrist, because (he) will not confess ( that Jesus came in the FLESH.) The NIV : What have they omitted?
IN THE FLESH.
Where is the spirit of antichrist ? Which Bible translation ? The NIV, IT did not confess that Jesus came in the flesh.

The following verse IS COMPLETELY GONE in every translation EXCEPT the King James Bible.
Matthew 17:21 KJV
Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.
This is one place that it is mentioned, but there are actually TWO. The KJV says " Out of the mouth of two witnesses shall a truth be established.
Jesus was establishing a doctrine of spiritual warfare, that when some of these spirits wont leave you alone; what you do is PRAY and you FAST because Jesus said that is how it was going to be. Think about it, the Devil is pretty slick isn't he? He took the keys of spiritual warfare right out of the Bible, because  THIS VERSE IS COMPLETELY OMITED  IN THESE bibles.
1. NIV
2. NASV
3. RSV
4. Holman standard
5. You name IT........

This verse is ALSO completely Gone
KJV
Matthew 18:11
For the Son of man is come to Save that which was lost.
In the NIV, the verses number 13 to 15, and omit the verse 14 altogether.
Jesus was preaching against False religion, and putting on a show IN CHURCHES. Jesus was against that. Yet that verse is NOW GONE out of the Bible, EXCEPT the King James.

GONE
Mark 9:44 KJV
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is NOT quenched.
Evidence here of the hegalian dialect NOW at work in THE DOCTRINE OF HELL.
I like the old Hell Fire preachers. Hell IS Hot; and (That) saved sinners. The church went for thousands of years believing that HELL was HOT, but now for some reason " We have This New Synthetic Doctrine" that's coming out of our pulpits of SO CALLED Christian leaders.
We could name names of the people who believe this and gasp !
But it is true. (That says HELL is NOT on FIRE.) That the FIRE is merely a symbol of the separation of God, so hell is not on fire.

We have ONE Bible that says HELL ( is) on Fire.
And Another Bible that says there (is no) HELL.
This New Synthetic Doctrine says hell is NOT on fire.
Maybe it has something to do with the verse that says hell (is) on fire, NOW is gone from the bible.

GONE !!!
>From all translations except KJV and NKJV
Mark 11:26
But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
GONE !!! Except in the KJV
Mark 16: 9-20  the NIV places A LINE across the page after verse 8 and has the following sentence:
* The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20.
* These same manuscripts did not contain any of the Book of Revelation.
NIV is basically telling you, that you have THEIR permission NOT TO BELIEVE verses 9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20. Even if you read it, you have the NIV'S permission NOT to believe it. They are saying, YOU don't have to believe it because " WE"don't THINK God said it !

Woe be to them ! God said;
He that taketh away from the words, I' will take away his name OUT of MY book.
I personally am not qualified to tell you about manuscript evidence, but there are a lot of early manuscripts, and there are a lot of ancient witnesses that DO SAY that THOSE verses belong there.
I just believe they do.
Another GONE
KJV
Acts 8:37
And Phillip said, If thou believest with all thine heart thou mayest, And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ (IS) the Son of God.
WHY is that Important ?
Phillip preached to the Enech, "Jesus," the enech said " Here is water, What preventest me from being baptized ? Phillip said, IF thou believest with all thine heart thou mayest.
Why so important ? Because (baptism and water) does NOT save you, does it?
Your belief (in) Jesus Christ, ( that) is what saves you.
If you take this verse OUT of the Bible, then they just jump down in the water and baptize you and make it look like the baptism saved you.
Aren't there churches today that just sprinkle you with water and tell you your saved ?
Again, This New Synthetic Doctrine !

GONE GONE GONE  this verse is completely GONE.
1 John 5:7 KJV
For there are THREE that bear record in heaven, the FATHER, the WORD, and the HOLY GHOST(:) and THESE THREE are ONE.
If you want to judge whether a bible is GOOD or not, pick the Bible up and turn to 1 John 5:7, IF that verse is not there, put it down and walk away.
I believe that verse belongs in the scriptures. It not only has the evidence, but it has the testimony of the Holy Ghost of God, to tell us that it belongs in the scriptures.
                                 ???? NO WONDER ????
The Devil hates The King James Bible so much ! He is working so hard to get it out of the church, out of the colleges, out of the ministries, out of the homes.
The  NIV, NASV, NKJV, and others do contain portions of the word of God. In many cases they have some of the same wording there, but for the most part, the word has been contaminated.
Just one drop of poison will contaminate a glass of water. The Bible says if a man offends the law in one point, he is guilty of all.
The way God sees this is; it is either pure or it's not. And when God says the words of the Lord are pure words, and that he would preserve them pure forever, he means that there are ZERO MISTAKES in the Bible and there will NEVER be one MISTAKE or ERROR in the scriptures. Not One !
That is what I believe about the King James Bible.

I have been focusing on the verses that were OMITED from the King James Bible. When the NIV committee, those men, who helped translate the New International Version of the Bible, they sat down and wrote out a BOOK as sort of an apology for what (it) was that THEY had done to the scriptures. They called it, " The Making Of A Translation "
In the BOOK " The NIV The Making Of A Translation " the authors actually ACCUSE the KJV translators of violating Scripture by ADDING these verses to the Bible-* The KJV adds ( and so alters) God's word.......

Some One Is Lying !
King James Translators said; THIS is the word of God. We have everything in it that God said, and now the NIV Translators said; Oh no you don't , and violated Scripture by adding to it.
I say ; they violated Scripture by Taking it Out.
You will see that these Translators of the NIV and perhaps some of the other versions, Are not just saying that the King James Bible is not as good a translation; but you will see that they actually " hate" the King James Bible.

Allow me to show you the Difference.
2 Peter 1:19 KJV
We have also a more sure word of prophecy(:) whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light.
Do we believe God, or men ?
* what God says....
* Thy word is Very Pure.   Psalms 119:140 KJV
YET, the NIV committee said:  There are mistakes in the "Transmission (of Texts.)"   *--- Burton Goddard- NIV Committee.

But God said there are no impurities in the Bible.
Who do we believe?
The word of the Lord endureth forever ( 1 Peter 1:25) means it will always be perfect.
YET the NIV says "The Bible is the words of men" a literary production. *-- Ronald Youngblood. NIV Committee.

According to the Bible it is the words of God.
That is what God said.
NIV Committee says it's mans word.
Every word of God is pure Proverbs 30:5 KJV

J. B Phillips Editor, The Phillips Bible:
Quote
I' felt bound to (abandon) the God- dictated-every-word-from-cover-to-cover attitude.

NEB Translating Committee
Quote
Every member of the Panel was conscious that some of it's decisions were in no sense certain.
WE in (all) surety can lay our heads down at night and know that this King James Bible (is) the inspired infallible word of God. That is what God said.
But man is saying, We're not really sure.

Calvin Linton--NIV Committee
Quote
The Bible is God's message' and not his words.
He believes the Bible is " the wrong side" of a beautiful embroidery. The picture is still there, but knotted, blurry, not beautiful, not perfect. He calls Christians " amusingly uninformed" who presume the Holy Spirit dictated the actual words of the text of the original writers.

He is saying, We people who believe in the King James Bible and are Christian, are "Stupid".
Do you recognize what that is?
It is called " the Doctrine of the Nicolaitans, and Jesus said; I Hate It !
THAT word means conquering the Laity.
That is at the bases of ALL the mystery religions.

When you have a man standing behind the pulpit who says YOU DON'T HAVE THE WORD OF GOD IN YOUR HAND, he is teaching you the mystery religion doctrine of the Nicolitans.

The Committee of the NIV Book; " The Making of a Contemporary Translation"
we see the Hate they have for the King James Translation.
Quote
Do not give them a loaf of bread, covered with an inedible, impenetrable crust, fossilized by three and a half centuries. For any preacher or theologian who loves God's word to allow that word to go on being a mis-understood version of Four Centuries ago, is INEXCUSABLE, and almost UNCONSCIONABLE. unquote

Edward H. Palmer- The NIV " The Making of a Contemporary Translation"
Do you hear the Hate in this man's voice? for the old Authorized Bible.

The New World Order; (that) is the conspiracy, that the Devil is driving at, right Now. He is trying to bring in a New World Order system. I personally believe he is using the new bible translations to do it.

Continued..........

The New World Order ( Posted June 15, 2014 )

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2014/kml615-3.htm

The Hierophant

http://marymacgregor-reid.com/2014/03/06/the-hierophant-harris-and-crowley-thoth-tarot/

Bible Counterfit

http://www.av1611.org/nkjv.html

God Bless you all
KML