Hi John and all Doves....

Thanks so much for being by far the most incredible group of believers that are watching and so desiring the return of our Lord Yeshua.

With all the time lines that are considered on the web, the one that comes back to me time and time again is the one John Hagee finally spoke about in his church. We here on fivedoves have known of it for many years and it's where I became familiar with it.

Back in 1217, Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel, a German Rabbi's prophecy that over the last 10 Jubilees that the following would happen. That for 8 Jubilees, which started in 1517, the Ottoman Turks had the Holy City of Jerusalem. The reason I call it Holy is it's the city of our Lord and always will be. I know that there is discussion over a Jubilee being 49 or 50 years but in this prophecy it is 50 years. In 1917, General Allenby took over Jerusalem and the entire area without firing a shot. He believed, as a Christian he should know his enemy and find what weaknesses they may have. He discovered that in their religion they believed that if while dying, even for a holy cause, their bodies touched any part of a pig, which was deemed unholy, then they would go to hell. So General Allenby announced to the Turks that he was dipping all of his ammunition in pigs fat. The next day there were no Turks to battle. They had gone home.

Then for the following Jubilee no one would own or control Jerusalem and that was fulfilled with the unlikely war....the 6 day war in June of 1967. If you can see a documentary on how this war began, it really was the Hand of God, giving Jerusalem back to Israel. The prophecy finishes with saying by the end of the final Jubilee, the Messiah would come.

Since I believe that the final 3 Feasts will be finished quickly by Jesus Himself, as He Himself fulfilled the first 3, then His 2nd Coming could be Tishri 1/2 of 2017.

With so much reading, mainly here on fivedoves, I've also come to the conclusion that Pentecost is not fully complete. Jesus completed Firstfruits by ascending into Heaven and presenting Himself to the Father as the First Fruits of all Creation. That presenting of the 2 loaves of bread has not yet been done.

The Song of Solomon seems to indicate a late spring early summer time frame for the rapture to take place. That also falls in line with Pentecost. Since our Lord is very much an orderly God, it seems very reasonable to me that He will fulfill Pentecost before He moves on to the last 3 Feasts, all to be completed, in my opinion, at His return.

If you consider that the lastest date on the Julian calendar for Pentecost would be the Orthodox Pentecost which is June 23rd of June.

It's during the marriage celebration that Christ will fulfill His words to His Disciples. I will not drink of this cup again till I drink it with you in the Kingdom of Heaven. So June 13 to 16th comes into play. That would mean fulfilling that promise having to do with Passover, in this case 2nd Passover, again on the Orthodox calendar.

Do we know the day or the hour? No!!! But we all here on fivedoves know the time is more than just near.

Blessings to you all.

Steve W2