Patricia S (27 June 2011)
"Pentacost = Moses and covenant Tammuz 29 = July 31"

Hi John and Doves
I have had a good look at the word of God and this is what I see. seems more than just coincidental to me, looks like God is telling us something here, the Great harvest!!!!!!
Moses coming back down Sinai - Tammuz 28/29
Pentacost - according to what I read in Leviticus is Tammuz 29 - fulfillment of the above
Boaz and Ruth - end of Barley and Wheat Harvest - would be sometime in Tammuz or also the end.
John 4:35 Telling of the Harvest - maybe the beginning of the Church Age? also could be the End of the Church Age.


Dates all seeming to culminate at the end of 4th Jewish Month. This year July 31 which is also a new moon Jerusalem.

First 4 Jewish months – Nissan, Iyar, Sivan, Tammuz


1.    Moses and the Israelites leave Egypt Passover Nissan 15 – 4 days after Sabbath.

They arrive at Mt Sinai

Exodus 19

 1In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai. – 4 days after Sabbath – Sivan 13 Wednesday (the Jews celebrate Sivan 6 when Moses received the law from God – The Israelites hadn’t arrived at Mount Sinai) or it could have been the 15th of the month, which would also be the same day but I don’t believe this would have been the case because the Israelites were getting ready for worship and they took 3 days to do that.

10 And the LORD said to Moses, “Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow. Have them wash their clothes 11 and be ready by the third day, because on that day the LORD will come down on Mount Sinai in the sight of all the people

The Third day is the Sabbath Sivan 16.  Moses went up the Mountain for 40 days either Sivan 17 or 18th. Exodus 24:16

Counting 40 days  Moses came back down the Mountain probably on the Sabbath as the Israelites were dancing around the golden calf Aaron had made, this date would be Tammuz 28/29.  Moses came back down with the law on this date.


Moses definitely came down from Mount Sinai on Tammuz 28/29 end of fourth month - 3,000 men were killed because of the Golden Calf.


2.      Pentacost - 1st day which I believe is Tammuz 29, 3,000 souls saved - a type of fulfillment or maybe a direct line between the two. Maybe for us to understand and see.


Two different 50 day times


Leviticus 23

15And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; - (Shavuot) seven sabbaths shall be complete: As Jesus will wave us before the Lord, I see this as a prophetic time schedule of being linked to the rapture and second coming of Jesus 

 16Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD. This to me is speaking of a Jubilee, Freedom time for us

Two different lots of 50’s 

As far as I can see the Jews do not keep the 50 day Pentacost celebrations at all.  Its quite clear that this day is a Sunday and Shavuot is not, it is suppose to be a rememberance of Moses and the Law but Moses hadnt reached Sinai at that date either.Moses reached Sinai on Sivan 13 and Shavuot is Sivan 6  Shavuot is an omer ceremony.

Shavuot in Temple Times
During the seven weeks between Passover and Shavuot, the Temple was busy with a special ceremony called the omer, an omer is an ancient measurement, that was brought as a wave offering. A special set of publicly harvested barley grains were winnowed, toasted, ground, sifted, mixed with oil, formed into a dough and waved in the courtyard of the Temple before a portion was sprinkled onto the altar as a sacrifice. Definitely seems prophetic re Jesus sacrifice for us

Afterward all new grains were permitted for harvesting and eating. mmmmm and this could mean us – Jesus first, making a way for us, then us

Apparantly Paul the apostle and Christians in that time kept the second Pentacost 50 days, a guy took note of where he was before Pentacost and did the calculation of how long it would have taken him to get to Jerusalem (where he was going to celectrate pentacost) apparently he would have had to travel (mostly by foot) over 50 miles a day on the days that he was travelling and he had an old man with him at the time.  Its an interesting thought.




 Tammuz 29 this year is July 31 a new moon - interesting hey

3.      Ruth and Boaz came together at the end of the Barley and Wheat Harvest in Summer not spring, Wheat isn’t harvested until summer.  So many of us have heard the message preached that Boaz, the kingsman Redeemer was a picture of Jesus taking a Gentile Bride.



4.   John 4

34Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

 35Say not ye, (NIV - Don’t you have a saying?) There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest. (end of the Barley & Wheat Harvests) (Say not ye NIV dont you have a saying) What this verse is saying is the Harvest is at the 4 Jewish month mark.  End of Harvest Pentacost = End of Church age????


Death of Ezra Tammuz 29 - dont know what significance, if any, this is but he was used by God in rebuilding the 2nd Temple


The 4th month is Tammuz end of harvest – end of the month


This harvest time that Jesus was talking about, it would have been 1.  Pentacost and the great reaping there at that first time.  2.  Also it could be prophectically being the Harvest of Believers in the Rapture. - I think so



Patricia S.