John Too (18 June 2011) 
"Pre God's wrath rapture"

John, you wrote a very good post, "spot on" as some say.

You wrote:

Seal six announces the coming of God's wrath.
Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Why some choose to argue against the word of God I cannot answer, but John makes it clear, when the signs of the 6th seal are seen, "the great day of His wrath" had come.

Where many are still confused, is where the 70th week is found compared this the day of His wrath. Many still believe the 70th week begins with the first seal. They are mistaken!  The 70th week begins with the 7th seal being broken and the 30 minutes of silence in heaven.

Those who had died in Christ and those in Christ who were still alive are seen in Heaven before God's wrath begins with the seventh seal.
Rev_7:9  After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands.
 
The great tribulation that the saints in Heaven have come out of in verse fourteen chapter seven is before God's wrath and is the great tribulation christians have been going through since Christ walked on earth.
 
I am open to correction.

I agree; John saw the raptured church in heaven, around the throne, BEFORE the 7th seal is broken that begins the 70th week of Daniel.  Many people believe Jesus put a TITLE on the last half of the 70th week, and it is titled "The Great Tribulation." This is fallacy and error.  Jesus never put such a title on the last half of the week. In the first place, "those days" of "great tribulation" spoken of by Jesus, do not extend the full 41 months: Jesus said He would SHORTEN those days.

Again, many, when they see the two words, "great tribulation" think they can only mean, those days when pressure is GREAT to deny Christ and take the mark. Well, those two words together have a DIFFERENT meaning in chapter 2 or 3, when Jesus tells the prostitute Jezebel that He will cast her (and those joining her in sin) into great tribulation. They lived almost 2000 years ago!  So these two words can certainly have a different meaning, and John has nailed it: all John is telling us is that at the time of the rapture, people will be being killed for their stand on Christ Jesus around the world. It is that way right now, in half the world!

Good post, John!!

Lyle